HD-10 for green screen ? at DVinfo.net

Ariel Levesque · November 8th, 2003, 10:25 PM

Hi everybody !
Were're currently planning on buying a HD-10, for semi-pro purpose... But I read on camcorderinfo that color noise on the footage makes it impossible to use for chroma key. Does anybody tried it ? DV is really bad, for chroma keying, but I did a lot of good mattes out of the XL-1... So I'm wondering if there is a way to do the same, or even better, with the HD-10.
We do not need perfect matte, since we can't afford a real professionnal cam, but I must know if it's possible to make some "acceptable" chroma keying from this cam...

Heath McKnight · November 9th, 2003, 12:42 PM

Not to sound like a jerk, but why not try it out and post up the results. I have NO clue, but am interested.

We shot a short film on an XL-1 that has some blue screen in it. It's a little "confection" romantic comedy that takes place in Paris via CGI (fake window, big bluescreen for a patio scene, art to be put on the wall, etc.).

We wouldn't mind trying this out one day on the HD10, too!

Thanks,

heath

Alex Raskin · November 9th, 2003, 04:03 PM

Please see here:

http://lumieremedia.com/hdv/viewtopic.php?p=73#73

Ariel Levesque · November 10th, 2003, 08:14 AM

Thanks a lot, Alex, that is what I wanted to see... It seems that with proper lighting and setup, good screens can be achieved with this cam, and we'll get one very soon. So we will be able to post our own test !

Alex Raskin · November 10th, 2003, 08:30 AM

Ariel, you're welcome!

The positive info re. GS work with HD10 does contradict my own experience, but I do trust that Eric et al have more experience and know better.

Looks like they had better luck with light green screens (surprising to me, as I notice a lot of green chroma noise in the cam's footage, so in my mind, this would render green screens useless. Go figure).

I'm glad that forums allow all of us to exchange opinions and know-how, so we can actually use the darn thing :)

Chris Hurd · November 10th, 2003, 08:47 AM

I thought there were some green-screen HD10 examples around somewhere. If anybody has any stills or a sjort clip they'd like to post, I'd be happy to host 'em.

November 8th, 2003, 10:25 PM	#1
Ariel Levesque Tourist Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Joliette, Québec. Posts: 3	HD-10 for green screen ? Hi everybody ! Were're currently planning on buying a HD-10, for semi-pro purpose... But I read on camcorderinfo that color noise on the footage makes it impossible to use for chroma key. Does anybody tried it ? DV is really bad, for chroma keying, but I did a lot of good mattes out of the XL-1... So I'm wondering if there is a way to do the same, or even better, with the HD-10. We do not need perfect matte, since we can't afford a real professionnal cam, but I must know if it's possible to make some "acceptable" chroma keying from this cam... __________________ Studio Io, Québec. Multimedia and post-production.

November 9th, 2003, 12:42 PM	#2
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Not to sound like a jerk, but why not try it out and post up the results. I have NO clue, but am interested. We shot a short film on an XL-1 that has some blue screen in it. It's a little "confection" romantic comedy that takes place in Paris via CGI (fake window, big bluescreen for a patio scene, art to be put on the wall, etc.). We wouldn't mind trying this out one day on the HD10, too! Thanks, heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

November 10th, 2003, 08:14 AM	#4
Ariel Levesque Tourist Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Joliette, Québec. Posts: 3	Thanks a lot, Alex, that is what I wanted to see... It seems that with proper lighting and setup, good screens can be achieved with this cam, and we'll get one very soon. So we will be able to post our own test ! __________________ Studio Io, Québec. Multimedia and post-production.

November 10th, 2003, 08:47 AM	#6
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	I thought there were some green-screen HD10 examples around somewhere. If anybody has any stills or a sjort clip they'd like to post, I'd be happy to host 'em. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

November 9th, 2003, 04:03 PM	#3
Alex Raskin Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,435	Please see here: http://lumieremedia.com/hdv/viewtopic.php?p=73#73

November 10th, 2003, 08:30 AM	#5
Alex Raskin Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,435	Ariel, you're welcome! The positive info re. GS work with HD10 does contradict my own experience, but I do trust that Eric et al have more experience and know better. Looks like they had better luck with light green screens (surprising to me, as I notice a lot of green chroma noise in the cam's footage, so in my mind, this would render green screens useless. Go figure). I'm glad that forums allow all of us to exchange opinions and know-how, so we can actually use the darn thing :)