HD1 in stock in NY at DVinfo.net

Joseph George · May 2nd, 2003, 04:12 PM

Does anyone live in NY who could go to that store and check out the picture quality, color especialy, in stong light, preferably outdoors, and report on it.

http://bnotions.com/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=55

Frank Granovski · May 2nd, 2003, 06:52 PM

Allan has already done a "review" on it, and posted here. The Japanese NTSC version should be the same cam as the North America version---maybe just a tad stripped down.

Joseph George · May 2nd, 2003, 11:01 PM

Could someone post a link to that review

Steve Mullen · May 2nd, 2003, 11:24 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Joseph George : Does anyone live in NY who could go to that store and check out the picture quality, color especialy, in stong light, preferably outdoors, and report on it.
-->>>

The "store" seems to be a mailorder "direct from Japan" website with NO RETURN.

And, where is the review posted?

Frank Granovski · May 2nd, 2003, 11:36 PM

Here: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...&threadid=7575

Well, it wasn't a full blown review but rather a first impression. I too am interested in reading more about these 2 new cams. I have to try and keep an open mind---besides, I own 2 older JVC 1 chip cams and still use them most of the time. (GR-DVL9500U)

Steve Mullen · May 3rd, 2003, 01:55 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Frank Granovski : Here: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...&threadid=7575

Well, it wasn't a full blown review but rather a first impression. -->>>

This was published here more than a month ago in April 1.

Allan Rejoso · May 3rd, 2003, 02:10 AM

Sorry, I've never written any reviews of any cams yet. All my posts are just impressions based on actual "playing around" with cams, which anybody in Tokyo can easily do anytime they want and as much as they want (within the store's business hours of course). I sometimes add in some technical info which are only available in Jap sites (like to lux thing).

As regards the HD1 or HD10, IMO the only way anyone can make a "legitimate" review of these cams is to rent them or own them first. It is also a must to have a good HDTV, the appropriate NLE software installed in your PC, and perhaps a D-VHS deck.

No disrespect to those who claim to have written "reviews" of these cams, but what I consider as good reviews are those that inform things that CANNOT be found in Jap websites. I think Frank G. referred to those as the "beef" or something...

Regards

Joseph George · May 3rd, 2003, 11:35 AM

Allan, there must be reviewes of this camcorder in Japanese magazines. Could you possibly check this out and and let us know. What do they have to say about the color, poor low light rating, editing software, etc. When HD10 will be out, and will the color be any better?

Joseph George · May 3rd, 2003, 11:38 AM

Does anyone know the latest introduction dates for HD1 and HD10?

Bryan Beasleigh · May 3rd, 2003, 12:23 PM

This thread and in part this particular forum leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'm a fairly savy old guy who's BS detector is going crazy. While I'm sure there are elements of truth there's an awful lot of selling going on here.

Steve Mullen · May 3rd, 2003, 12:30 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Joseph George : Does anyone know the latest introduction dates for HD1 and HD10? -->>>

I've got the Video Salon STORY. But no REVIEW yet because that typically won't hit news stands until 2-3 months after product availability.

The HD10 will ship sometime in July.

The HD1 should be shipping now -- yet I've not heard of one being available for sale.

One might speculate the "tuning" done for the HD10 is also going to be in the HD1. Which would cause it to slip -- perhaps until July.

That would make the USA model different from the Japanese model. Which is why I wouldn't buy an import.

Of course, the Japanese model may be getting the mods which means Japanese reviews might be delayed.

All this is why I'm waiting for the shipping USA product before speculating on image quality.

Joseph George · May 4th, 2003, 09:48 PM

Hello and thank you for your inquiry:

We are located in New York, however the unit is shipped directly from
Japan to the buyer. We do not operate out of a storefront as we are an
online supplier, therefore we would not be able to show you the actual
unit. There may be a small duty tax charged upon delivery which will be
billed to you on a later date by DHL. The units we are offering are
Japanese models.

Cordially,
Briant
bNotions.com
http://www.bnotions.com

May 2nd, 2003, 04:12 PM	#1
Joseph George Permanently Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 265	HD1 in stock in NY Does anyone live in NY who could go to that store and check out the picture quality, color especialy, in stong light, preferably outdoors, and report on it. http://bnotions.com/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=55

May 2nd, 2003, 11:24 PM	#4
Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	Re: HD1 in stock in NY <<<-- Originally posted by Joseph George : Does anyone live in NY who could go to that store and check out the picture quality, color especialy, in stong light, preferably outdoors, and report on it. -->>> The "store" seems to be a mailorder "direct from Japan" website with NO RETURN. And, where is the review posted? __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c

May 3rd, 2003, 01:55 AM	#6
Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	<<<-- Originally posted by Frank Granovski : Here: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...&threadid=7575 Well, it wasn't a full blown review but rather a first impression. -->>> This was published here more than a month ago in April 1. __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c

May 3rd, 2003, 12:30 PM	#11
Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	<<<-- Originally posted by Joseph George : Does anyone know the latest introduction dates for HD1 and HD10? -->>> I've got the Video Salon STORY. But no REVIEW yet because that typically won't hit news stands until 2-3 months after product availability. The HD10 will ship sometime in July. The HD1 should be shipping now -- yet I've not heard of one being available for sale. One might speculate the "tuning" done for the HD10 is also going to be in the HD1. Which would cause it to slip -- perhaps until July. That would make the USA model different from the Japanese model. Which is why I wouldn't buy an import. Of course, the Japanese model may be getting the mods which means Japanese reviews might be delayed. All this is why I'm waiting for the shipping USA product before speculating on image quality. __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c

May 2nd, 2003, 06:52 PM	#2
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Allan has already done a "review" on it, and posted here. The Japanese NTSC version should be the same cam as the North America version---maybe just a tad stripped down.

May 2nd, 2003, 11:01 PM	#3
Joseph George Permanently Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 265	Could someone post a link to that review

May 2nd, 2003, 11:36 PM	#5
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Here: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...&threadid=7575 Well, it wasn't a full blown review but rather a first impression. I too am interested in reading more about these 2 new cams. I have to try and keep an open mind---besides, I own 2 older JVC 1 chip cams and still use them most of the time. (GR-DVL9500U)

May 3rd, 2003, 02:10 AM	#7
Allan Rejoso Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 569	Sorry, I've never written any reviews of any cams yet. All my posts are just impressions based on actual "playing around" with cams, which anybody in Tokyo can easily do anytime they want and as much as they want (within the store's business hours of course). I sometimes add in some technical info which are only available in Jap sites (like to lux thing). As regards the HD1 or HD10, IMO the only way anyone can make a "legitimate" review of these cams is to rent them or own them first. It is also a must to have a good HDTV, the appropriate NLE software installed in your PC, and perhaps a D-VHS deck. No disrespect to those who claim to have written "reviews" of these cams, but what I consider as good reviews are those that inform things that CANNOT be found in Jap websites. I think Frank G. referred to those as the "beef" or something... Regards

May 3rd, 2003, 11:35 AM	#8
Joseph George Permanently Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 265	Allan, there must be reviewes of this camcorder in Japanese magazines. Could you possibly check this out and and let us know. What do they have to say about the color, poor low light rating, editing software, etc. When HD10 will be out, and will the color be any better?

May 3rd, 2003, 11:38 AM	#9
Joseph George Permanently Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 265	Does anyone know the latest introduction dates for HD1 and HD10?

May 3rd, 2003, 12:23 PM	#10
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	This thread and in part this particular forum leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'm a fairly savy old guy who's BS detector is going crazy. While I'm sure there are elements of truth there's an awful lot of selling going on here.

May 4th, 2003, 09:48 PM	#12
Joseph George Permanently Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 265	Hello and thank you for your inquiry: We are located in New York, however the unit is shipped directly from Japan to the buyer. We do not operate out of a storefront as we are an online supplier, therefore we would not be able to show you the actual unit. There may be a small duty tax charged upon delivery which will be billed to you on a later date by DHL. The units we are offering are Japanese models. Cordially, Briant bNotions.com http://www.bnotions.com