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Brian Standing September 13th, 2008 10:13 AM

Hi, Craig

Thanks for weighing in on this. Will there be any way to connect the XDCAM EX recorder to the HD100/HD110?

If not, will JVC be developing some kind of solid-state based recording solution for the HD100/HD110 line? Something along the lines of the recently-announced Sony compact flash recorder?

Marc Jayson September 13th, 2008 03:26 PM

KAMR100 IBC 2008 spinning around.

JVC HD-251 with SxS System on Vimeo

Craig Yanagi September 13th, 2008 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Standing (Post 934254)
Hi, Craig

Thanks for weighing in on this. Will there be any way to connect the XDCAM EX recorder to the HD100/HD110?

No.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Standing (Post 934254)
If not, will JVC be developing some kind of solid-state based recording solution for the HD100/HD110 line? Something along the lines of the recently-announced Sony compact flash recorder?

The only dockable solid state media recording device we have in development is the KAMR100.

Gavin Owens September 14th, 2008 05:17 AM

HD Timelapse
 
Will this system offer High definition Timelapse recording? I'm currently in the market for a solid state device and the abilty to record timelapse in HD is the deal clincher.
Thanks
Gavin

Steve Mullen September 14th, 2008 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Standing (Post 934254)
Hi, Craig

Thanks for weighing in on this. Will there be any way to connect the XDCAM EX recorder to the HD100/HD110?

If not, will JVC be developing some kind of solid-state based recording solution for the HD100/HD110 line?

I hear the lust for something other than tape, but when one really looks at the COMPLETE workflow (cost and time), IMHO MiniDV tape simply can't be beat.

With Mike's ClipWrap you can import to FCP from a computer disk much like it were a camcorder disk or SxS card.

Of course, there is still the capture and conversion time, BUT were Mike to offer a version of ClipWrap with two new features you could have near "non-tape" experience.

1) Apple provides DVHScap as a kit that can be added to any program. So a tape import function could be added to ClipWrap fairly easily.

2) If anyone has used iMovie 08's HDV import function -- after firewire capture -- you see each clip in a light-table matrix and can preview each clip. Don't like it -- unclick IMPORT.
If ClipWrap had this, only the clips you wanted would be converted.

This gives the tape user the same kind of import experience as does the Sony Clip Browser. If you eliminate 50% of clips up-front you are a long way toward starting editing. And, you still have your Master tape for safe keeping!

Software like this could extend the life of the HD100 and HD110. For many who shoot 24p, these cameras are perfect.

Greg Boston September 14th, 2008 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Mullen (Post 934731)
I hear the lust for something other than tape, but when one really looks at the COMPLETE workflow (cost and time), IMHO MiniDV tape simply can't be beat.

I did... 2 1/2 years ago. XDCAM Optical was a no-brainer, offering cost per disc equal to other professional tape formats, faster than real time transfer, the ability to remove wasted shots from the disc while still acquiring, etc. The list goes on and on.

Used to it's full potential, there's no tape system that's anywhere near as efficient in both time and cost.

The cards are a bit pricey, but still offer the advantages over tape during the acquisition process.

And the NUMBER ONE REASON why tape isn't as good... You can't accidentally erase over your material with disc or card. It doesn't happen... period.

-gb-

Jim Boda September 14th, 2008 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Dashwood (Post 934075)
Not according to the specs. 25mbps for 1080i from a HD200B. 19.2Mbps for 720p on HD200/250. It seems the camera's encoder is still being used.
For now this really just means you can record directly to XDCAM EX format on a SxS card. For now there is no image quality improvement over HDV.

68-pin multi-connector.

Hmmm, that's a bit confusing. So, the initial option will be an XDCAM compressed version of an existing HDV compressed signal?

Brian Luce September 14th, 2008 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Mullen (Post 934731)
And, you still have your Master tape for safe keeping!

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This is a big point for me; Archive. A point that gets lost IMHOP in all the tapeless excitement...

Craig Yanagi September 14th, 2008 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Boda (Post 934761)
Hmmm, that's a bit confusing. So, the initial option will be an XDCAM compressed version of an existing HDV compressed signal?

That's correct. The initial capability of the KAMR100 will be to take in the video signal via IEEE 1394, internally, and wrap the signal into an XDCAM EX file.

Gavin Owens September 15th, 2008 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin Owens (Post 934510)
Will this system offer High definition Timelapse recording? I'm currently in the market for a solid state device and the abilty to record timelapse in HD is the deal clincher.
Thanks
Gavin

Any chance of an answer???

Craig Yanagi September 15th, 2008 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin Owens (Post 934510)
Will this system offer High definition Timelapse recording? I'm currently in the market for a solid state device and the abilty to record timelapse in HD is the deal clincher.
Thanks
Gavin

The GYHD250 does not have time lapse recording capability. The KAMR100 does not have time lapse recording capability currently in its specifications.

Gavin Owens September 16th, 2008 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig Yanagi (Post 934986)
The GYHD250 does not have time lapse recording capability. The KAMR100 does not have time lapse recording capability currently in its specifications.



Pity....I was aware that the camera couldn't do so but I was hoping the next range of solid state recorders could provide a solution.Surely it's a basic need for cameras these days.
Thanks for you response
Gavin


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