GG, Mini35 ???.... at DVinfo.net

John Harbor · December 1st, 2008, 11:44 PM

Can someone explain a GG to me and the Mini35 and why they are used ?

Sorry but I am new to HD and have been using conventional SD Camera's up till now.

Cheers
John

Ted Ramasola · December 2nd, 2008, 03:25 AM

John,

This question is best addressed at the alternative imaging threads.

Alternative Imaging Methods - The Digital Video Information Network

Also here.

35mm Adapters: Construction; Function; Pros/Cons - DVXuser.com -- The online community for filmmaking

Ted

John Harbor · December 2nd, 2008, 06:27 AM

Thanks Ted, The second link was just what I was after......... :)

John

Ted Ramasola · December 2nd, 2008, 06:35 AM

Your welcome John,

By the way, you posted on the JVC forum, are you planning on getting a JVC as your HD cam? if so, theres a lot of people here in this forum who can help you make the most of it.

If you also plan to use that with a lens adapter, theres also a lot of help here.

One of those guys who can religiously go through the nuances of the combination is an ozzy like you, Bob hart, is from Perth. I'm sure he'll chime in here to help you out once you've done your initial research and begin to ask specific questions on the matter.

Good luck on your reading,

Ted

John Harbor · December 2nd, 2008, 09:40 PM

Hi again Ted,

Yes I have acquired 2 of them.

A GY-HD111E and a GY-HD200U

I want to shoot in HD only for a couple of projects coming up.
I have previously used DVCPro50 for my stuff, but we are doing a few off road Doco's and the smaller lighter camera's will be my choice of weapon :)

I own an outside broadcast company, so I have heaps of 2/3 lenses to play with as well, and I have purchased the 1/3 to 2/3 Fujinon adapter to do that.

Still so much to learn !!! HD is sooooooo different from anything else I have done.

John

Ted Ramasola · December 3rd, 2008, 12:51 AM

John,

We have the HD100 and HD200, they're both solid cams. A word of caution is that when you decide to use scene files is that both don't have the same colorometry due to new AD circuits in the 200.

Ted

John Harbor · December 3rd, 2008, 01:21 AM

Yes thanks for that,
I have been reading about the differences here on the forum.....a very very handy source of information.
As soon as I get time, I am going to put them through their paces in our workshop and see how much tweeking can be done......looking forward to that.
I will, as I get to use these camera's, have a whole bunch of questions no doubt, so I hope you can all bear with me !
One thing I have noticed already though , is the amount you can customize the hardware and the internal software/settings.
Looking forward to the learning curve :)

John

Stuart Campbell · December 3rd, 2008, 02:13 AM

John,

A word of caution when considering 35mm dof adapters for your JVCs. In my experience, if you are a professional, budget 35mm adapters that bolt on to the front of the lens are simply not worth it...AT ALL!! They'll give you nothing but grief, wasted money and delays in production, not to mention shoddy unprofessional customer service from some of the companies that make them.

Ted, however, (who was really helpful to me when we first entered the field of adapters) is one of the lucky few who is able to get some really fantastic results.

As you own an OB unit I think you'll be clued up enough to realise that there's nothing to gain in spending as little as possible. So, do the right thing and spend the cash whether you hire or buy and get yourself a P+S Technik that just bolts straight onto the bayonet mount of the camera body. Another alternative would be the JVC 16mm lens adapter that works independently of the Fujinon lens.

On a more positive note, once you get the right bit of kit on the front of the JVC you should expect some smashing pictures. We've been really impressed and have even used the JVC over a DigiBeta on a couple of jobs because the picture had so much more character for what we were doing!

Regards
Stuart

John Harbor · December 3rd, 2008, 05:39 AM

Hi Stuart,

Yes over the years I have learnt that results are directly proportional to money spent with anything to do with lenses.......any optical stuff really.

Yes I agree the HD format has a definite distinct look over Digi Beta and the Pro50 I still have here.
I really enjoy this format so far...... I think I will wait until I can justify a mini35.
It seems like they are the leaders in this sort of thing.
I really like the JVC because of its Size V's features... it will be so much better jumping out of vehicles and filming with something so small and agile compared to full size broadcast camera's.
The DOF adaptor is not something I need right away, so I can wait for a while yet.

Looking forward to many posts with you guys !! thanks for the help so far.

John

December 1st, 2008, 11:44 PM	#1
John Harbor Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 51	GG, Mini35 ???.... Can someone explain a GG to me and the Mini35 and why they are used ? Sorry but I am new to HD and have been using conventional SD Camera's up till now. Cheers John

December 2nd, 2008, 03:25 AM	#2
Ted Ramasola Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Allen, Texas U.S.A Posts: 1,117	John, This question is best addressed at the alternative imaging threads. Alternative Imaging Methods - The Digital Video Information Network Also here. 35mm Adapters: Construction; Function; Pros/Cons - DVXuser.com -- The online community for filmmaking Ted

December 2nd, 2008, 06:27 AM	#3
John Harbor Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 51	Thanks Ted, The second link was just what I was after......... :) John

December 2nd, 2008, 06:35 AM	#4
Ted Ramasola Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Allen, Texas U.S.A Posts: 1,117	Your welcome John, By the way, you posted on the JVC forum, are you planning on getting a JVC as your HD cam? if so, theres a lot of people here in this forum who can help you make the most of it. If you also plan to use that with a lens adapter, theres also a lot of help here. One of those guys who can religiously go through the nuances of the combination is an ozzy like you, Bob hart, is from Perth. I'm sure he'll chime in here to help you out once you've done your initial research and begin to ask specific questions on the matter. Good luck on your reading, Ted

December 2nd, 2008, 09:40 PM	#5
John Harbor Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 51	Hi again Ted, Yes I have acquired 2 of them. A GY-HD111E and a GY-HD200U I want to shoot in HD only for a couple of projects coming up. I have previously used DVCPro50 for my stuff, but we are doing a few off road Doco's and the smaller lighter camera's will be my choice of weapon :) I own an outside broadcast company, so I have heaps of 2/3 lenses to play with as well, and I have purchased the 1/3 to 2/3 Fujinon adapter to do that. Still so much to learn !!! HD is sooooooo different from anything else I have done. John

December 3rd, 2008, 12:51 AM	#6
Ted Ramasola Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Allen, Texas U.S.A Posts: 1,117	John, We have the HD100 and HD200, they're both solid cams. A word of caution is that when you decide to use scene files is that both don't have the same colorometry due to new AD circuits in the 200. Ted

December 3rd, 2008, 01:21 AM	#7
John Harbor Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 51	Yes thanks for that, I have been reading about the differences here on the forum.....a very very handy source of information. As soon as I get time, I am going to put them through their paces in our workshop and see how much tweeking can be done......looking forward to that. I will, as I get to use these camera's, have a whole bunch of questions no doubt, so I hope you can all bear with me ! One thing I have noticed already though , is the amount you can customize the hardware and the internal software/settings. Looking forward to the learning curve :) John

December 3rd, 2008, 02:13 AM	#8
Stuart Campbell Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hannover, Germany Posts: 400	John, A word of caution when considering 35mm dof adapters for your JVCs. In my experience, if you are a professional, budget 35mm adapters that bolt on to the front of the lens are simply not worth it...AT ALL!! They'll give you nothing but grief, wasted money and delays in production, not to mention shoddy unprofessional customer service from some of the companies that make them. Ted, however, (who was really helpful to me when we first entered the field of adapters) is one of the lucky few who is able to get some really fantastic results. As you own an OB unit I think you'll be clued up enough to realise that there's nothing to gain in spending as little as possible. So, do the right thing and spend the cash whether you hire or buy and get yourself a P+S Technik that just bolts straight onto the bayonet mount of the camera body. Another alternative would be the JVC 16mm lens adapter that works independently of the Fujinon lens. On a more positive note, once you get the right bit of kit on the front of the JVC you should expect some smashing pictures. We've been really impressed and have even used the JVC over a DigiBeta on a couple of jobs because the picture had so much more character for what we were doing! Regards Stuart

December 3rd, 2008, 05:39 AM	#9
John Harbor Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 51	Hi Stuart, Yes over the years I have learnt that results are directly proportional to money spent with anything to do with lenses.......any optical stuff really. Yes I agree the HD format has a definite distinct look over Digi Beta and the Pro50 I still have here. I really enjoy this format so far...... I think I will wait until I can justify a mini35. It seems like they are the leaders in this sort of thing. I really like the JVC because of its Size V's features... it will be so much better jumping out of vehicles and filming with something so small and agile compared to full size broadcast camera's. The DOF adaptor is not something I need right away, so I can wait for a while yet. Looking forward to many posts with you guys !! thanks for the help so far. John