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Miles Martin · December 4th, 2008, 12:08 PM

I have the JVC HD200 and I shoot in 720p60. When editing in Adobe Premiere Pro CS3, I can't find a capture preset for 720p60.

Is anyone here using the HD200 in that format with Adobe Premiere Pro CS3? If so, what capture template are you using?

Thanks.

Dan Parkes · December 4th, 2008, 07:13 PM

Hi Miles

I use Premiere Pro CS3 and have edited 720p60 footage for a slow motion effect in a music video -and it worked very well . The best way is to first shoot direct to harddrive (DR-100 HDD) and then you can directly import the 720p60 footage.

It depends on why you have shot at this higher frame rate. If it is because you are logically wanting to achieve a slow motion effect that you can simply select your target frame rate in the new project settings window (in my case it was 25p -being in PAL land) and then once open, in the project itself, right click on the clip and select 'interpret footage' to change the frame rate -effectively slowing the footage down about 40% in this case, which was great for our music video, which had been shot with high speed lip sync. I am not sure if there is any other logical reason to shoot at such a high frame rate, as there are trade offs with compression artifacts on fast moving objects and audio issues with the DR-100 HDD etc.

Dan

Miles Martin · December 5th, 2008, 07:01 AM

Hi Dan,

Thanks for the reply.

I shoot in 720p60 because I don't like the "film" effect that 24p or 30p gives. I like the crisp sharpness of HD video. 720p60 gives me that.

I did find a setting in Premiere that captures 1280x720 at 59.94 fps, but eventually the audio gets out of sync. I read that Premiere CS3 sometimes thinks that breaks in the video (when you start and stop your camera) are errors with the timecode and it will add 5 or 6 red frames to make up for it. This is a real serious problem.

Does anyone have a solution for this?

Thanks.

Miles.

Kevin Ahronson · December 9th, 2008, 08:29 AM

I am in a similar situation.

Having taken delivery of my HD200 plus a copy of Premier Pro CS4 in the same week, and having shot some material over the weekend at 50p , I can't find a way to import the footage into CS4.

There doesn't appear to be a 50p option - only 25p.

Can anyone help?

Jason McCormy · December 9th, 2008, 08:34 AM

I don't know if this is related, but I just got a copy of Onlocation CS3 and can't get it to let me monitor my JVC in 60p. I have not tried it yet in 24p, but will give that a shot.

Kevin Ahronson · December 9th, 2008, 10:53 AM

I gave up in the end and decided to use Sony Vegas Pro 8 on this occasion. Much better capturing facility in a number of ways - more customiseable and the monitoring is a lot more stable.

Will use Prem Pro for 24p + 25p, but Vegas for 50p.

Tup Wright · December 10th, 2008, 06:57 PM

Just wondering, did you try capturing with non-drop turned on and a custom preset at 60fps?

Also, there is already an update for CS4 at adobe.com

Miles Martin · December 13th, 2008, 05:32 PM

I gave up too and purchased Canopus Edius 4.5 from Amazon which does have a setting for 720p60. The cool thing is I purchased version 4.5 for about $270.00 and I can upgrade to version 5.0 (if I wanted) for $250.00.

So even buying both of these packages is less than the full price of Edius 5.0.

Miles

John Sirb · December 16th, 2008, 06:39 PM

Miles
As A long time Edius user, the upgrade to 5.0 with the Prodad and IZotope Plugins added on make it well worth it

December 4th, 2008, 12:08 PM	#1
Miles Martin New Boot Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Shaler PA Posts: 20	720p60 and Premiere Pro CS3 I have the JVC HD200 and I shoot in 720p60. When editing in Adobe Premiere Pro CS3, I can't find a capture preset for 720p60. Is anyone here using the HD200 in that format with Adobe Premiere Pro CS3? If so, what capture template are you using? Thanks.

December 4th, 2008, 07:13 PM	#2
Dan Parkes Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Brighton, UK Posts: 154	Hi Miles I use Premiere Pro CS3 and have edited 720p60 footage for a slow motion effect in a music video -and it worked very well . The best way is to first shoot direct to harddrive (DR-100 HDD) and then you can directly import the 720p60 footage. It depends on why you have shot at this higher frame rate. If it is because you are logically wanting to achieve a slow motion effect that you can simply select your target frame rate in the new project settings window (in my case it was 25p -being in PAL land) and then once open, in the project itself, right click on the clip and select 'interpret footage' to change the frame rate -effectively slowing the footage down about 40% in this case, which was great for our music video, which had been shot with high speed lip sync. I am not sure if there is any other logical reason to shoot at such a high frame rate, as there are trade offs with compression artifacts on fast moving objects and audio issues with the DR-100 HDD etc. Dan __________________ Canon C300 Mk2 x 2, Rotolight Anova Pro and Neos, Ronin Gimbal, Phantom 4 Pro UAV www.danthecameraman.co.uk

December 10th, 2008, 06:57 PM	#7
Tup Wright Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Seattle, WA USA Posts: 83	Just wondering, did you try capturing with non-drop turned on and a custom preset at 60fps? Also, there is already an update for CS4 at adobe.com Last edited by Tup Wright; December 10th, 2008 at 07:06 PM. Reason: add

December 16th, 2008, 06:39 PM	#9
John Sirb Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Amherst, OH Posts: 134	Miles As A long time Edius user, the upgrade to 5.0 with the Prodad and IZotope Plugins added on make it well worth it __________________ John Sirb Lake Breeze Video

December 5th, 2008, 07:01 AM	#3
Miles Martin New Boot Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Shaler PA Posts: 20	Hi Dan, Thanks for the reply. I shoot in 720p60 because I don't like the "film" effect that 24p or 30p gives. I like the crisp sharpness of HD video. 720p60 gives me that. I did find a setting in Premiere that captures 1280x720 at 59.94 fps, but eventually the audio gets out of sync. I read that Premiere CS3 sometimes thinks that breaks in the video (when you start and stop your camera) are errors with the timecode and it will add 5 or 6 red frames to make up for it. This is a real serious problem. Does anyone have a solution for this? Thanks. Miles.

December 9th, 2008, 08:29 AM	#4
Kevin Ahronson New Boot Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sutton, Surrey, England Posts: 9	I am in a similar situation. Having taken delivery of my HD200 plus a copy of Premier Pro CS4 in the same week, and having shot some material over the weekend at 50p , I can't find a way to import the footage into CS4. There doesn't appear to be a 50p option - only 25p. Can anyone help?

December 9th, 2008, 08:34 AM	#5
Jason McCormy Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Agoura California Posts: 268	I don't know if this is related, but I just got a copy of Onlocation CS3 and can't get it to let me monitor my JVC in 60p. I have not tried it yet in 24p, but will give that a shot.

December 9th, 2008, 10:53 AM	#6
Kevin Ahronson New Boot Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sutton, Surrey, England Posts: 9	I gave up in the end and decided to use Sony Vegas Pro 8 on this occasion. Much better capturing facility in a number of ways - more customiseable and the monitoring is a lot more stable. Will use Prem Pro for 24p + 25p, but Vegas for 50p.

December 13th, 2008, 05:32 PM	#8
Miles Martin New Boot Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Shaler PA Posts: 20	I gave up too and purchased Canopus Edius 4.5 from Amazon which does have a setting for 720p60. The cool thing is I purchased version 4.5 for about $270.00 and I can upgrade to version 5.0 (if I wanted) for $250.00. So even buying both of these packages is less than the full price of Edius 5.0. Miles