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Randy Johnson · April 28th, 2009, 10:59 PM

o.k. im ready to buy a Firestore drive. I have 2 options right now I see a referb Firestore pro 4 HD on Videoguys site for $600 or a JVC DR-HD100 b-stock for $900 on ebay. Is the JVC DR-HD100 worth the extra money? There both 60 gig.

Ted Ramasola · April 28th, 2009, 11:24 PM

Randy,

I have an HD100 and 200. I just got the cheap FS-4HD 60 gig. Its from BH and its only 60gig.

At first I thought its too small. But since using it, it never got to a point its filled up. M2ts have small file size.

I edit the m2ts only because I use EDIUS, and its real time fast. For effects and compositing where I need to do it in after effects, I convert from edius the m2t file(s) to HQ which is a one click process from edius bin.

So with that i realize i didn't need the high priced DR-HD100.

If you have an IDX or similar battery system for your JVC, just get a wire/cable to power the FS from your d-tap because the included battery with FS drains out fast. Otherwise you might need to purchase a separate high capacity battery for the FS.

Ted

Randy Johnson · April 29th, 2009, 08:28 AM

Ted,
Thanks for the response I do use Anton/Bauer batterys so I can power it from the camera. Both units I was looking at are 60 gigs but the DR-100 is the one that is made for the JVC camera and gives you info like time left etc. in the viewfinder of the camera. Thats why I thought I should spend more but I think I will go cheap. Thanks.

Ted Ramasola · April 29th, 2009, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Randy Johnson

Ted,
the DR-100 is the one that is made for the JVC camera and gives you info like time left etc. in the viewfinder of the camera. Thats why I thought I should spend more but I think I will go cheap. Thanks.

Randy,

Using the the FS-4HD on the JVC it will still give you a clue in the viewfinder. Everytime you press the pause/record button, the words, "trigger to hdv" will flash on your VF and LCD. the problem is when you hit it again, it STILL says "trigger to hdv". so you MUST remember wether it was on and when its stop cuz you might think its recording but actually stopping it.

I got used to it after a while and i always glance at the LEDs on the FS cuz it has modes for rec, pause, etc.

Just like anything, it takes some practice.

Ted

Randy Johnson · April 29th, 2009, 09:51 AM

I guess if your rolling a backup tape it would co-inside with your tape roll would'nt you think?

Ted Ramasola · April 29th, 2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy Johnson

I guess if your rolling a backup tape it would co-inside with your tape roll would'nt you think?

Oh yes. It would. I was basing my statement above when using FS-4hd in tapeless mode. In sync mode, meaning with tape and FS recording at same time, its helpful cuz you can see the tape counter running and rec indicator as well.

The advantage of running tapeless is,

1. there is no preroll and record start is faster.

2. you can activate cache, useful for certain conditions, where the previous 3 seconds is recorded upon pressing the rec button.

for mission critical jobs, having tape is advisable.

Brian Luce · April 29th, 2009, 01:52 PM

You never know where something on ebay has been or hasn't been. Videoguys is reputable, ebay isn't.
Forget the additional onscreen info, the one and only reason you'd want the 100 is if you use FCP, as FCP doesn't "See" mp2 -- you'll have to rewrap with clip wrap or streamclip.

Randy Johnson · April 29th, 2009, 01:58 PM

The one off e-bay was from a dealer too but I did end up going with the FS-4 HD from Videoguys. I also bought the new Anton bauer mount for my camera and the Anton bauer cable. So we'll see how it goes. thanks for the input.

Randy

Brian Luce · April 29th, 2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy Johnson

The one off e-bay was from a dealer too but I did end up going with the FS-4 HD from Videoguys. I also bought the new Anton bauer mount for my camera and the Anton bauer cable. So we'll see how it goes. thanks for the input.

Randy

The mounts are nice, but a patch of velcro works well too.

Randy Johnson · April 29th, 2009, 06:43 PM

Yeah I know but I dont want to see my investment crash to the ground. I do alot of running around and I already have alot of crap on my camera.

Randy Johnson · May 1st, 2009, 09:41 PM

Well I got my refurb FS-4 Pro HD today from Videoguys and monday its going back. I was all excited I was going to try and use it this weekend so I hooked up the charger and I get a red light according to the book its a charging error I guess the battery is bad. Bummer.

April 28th, 2009, 10:59 PM	#1
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	Firestore Drives o.k. im ready to buy a Firestore drive. I have 2 options right now I see a referb Firestore pro 4 HD on Videoguys site for $600 or a JVC DR-HD100 b-stock for $900 on ebay. Is the JVC DR-HD100 worth the extra money? There both 60 gig.

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April 28th, 2009, 11:24 PM	#2
Ted Ramasola Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Allen, Texas U.S.A Posts: 1,117	Randy, I have an HD100 and 200. I just got the cheap FS-4HD 60 gig. Its from BH and its only 60gig. At first I thought its too small. But since using it, it never got to a point its filled up. M2ts have small file size. I edit the m2ts only because I use EDIUS, and its real time fast. For effects and compositing where I need to do it in after effects, I convert from edius the m2t file(s) to HQ which is a one click process from edius bin. So with that i realize i didn't need the high priced DR-HD100. If you have an IDX or similar battery system for your JVC, just get a wire/cable to power the FS from your d-tap because the included battery with FS drains out fast. Otherwise you might need to purchase a separate high capacity battery for the FS. Ted

April 29th, 2009, 08:28 AM	#3
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	Ted, Thanks for the response I do use Anton/Bauer batterys so I can power it from the camera. Both units I was looking at are 60 gigs but the DR-100 is the one that is made for the JVC camera and gives you info like time left etc. in the viewfinder of the camera. Thats why I thought I should spend more but I think I will go cheap. Thanks.

April 29th, 2009, 09:51 AM	#5
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	I guess if your rolling a backup tape it would co-inside with your tape roll would'nt you think?

April 29th, 2009, 01:52 PM	#7
Brian Luce Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,290	You never know where something on ebay has been or hasn't been. Videoguys is reputable, ebay isn't. Forget the additional onscreen info, the one and only reason you'd want the 100 is if you use FCP, as FCP doesn't "See" mp2 -- you'll have to rewrap with clip wrap or streamclip.

April 29th, 2009, 01:58 PM	#8
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	The one off e-bay was from a dealer too but I did end up going with the FS-4 HD from Videoguys. I also bought the new Anton bauer mount for my camera and the Anton bauer cable. So we'll see how it goes. thanks for the input. Randy

April 29th, 2009, 06:43 PM	#10
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	Yeah I know but I dont want to see my investment crash to the ground. I do alot of running around and I already have alot of crap on my camera.

May 1st, 2009, 09:41 PM	#11
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	Well I got my refurb FS-4 Pro HD today from Videoguys and monday its going back. I was all excited I was going to try and use it this weekend so I hooked up the charger and I get a red light according to the book its a charging error I guess the battery is bad. Bummer.