JVC has updated their FAQ again. at DVinfo.net

Tim Dashwood · November 24th, 2005, 02:24 PM

So now the FAQ says "What is the native resolution of the chips in the GY-HD100?" instead of "Rarely, a faint vertical line appears in the centre of the screen - is this normal?" At least they didn't delete the explanation of SSE.

http://pro.jvc.com/prof/Attributes/f...re_id=13#chips

They also have the chart comparing media costs. I like how they point out that the HVX200 shooting P2 will cost $17,599 per hour! Very funny. They included ProHD-HDD (Firestore) but didn't mention that Panasonic will also have their own version of firestore for DVCPROHD.

http://pro.jvc.com/prof/Attributes/f...=13#media_cost

Robert Rock · November 24th, 2005, 07:24 PM

The system that Panny is using does not connect to the camera, nor does it work like the Firestore for DV or HDV. You still have to record to the P2 cards, then remove the P2 cards from the camera, insert them (one at a time) into the AJ-PCS060G P2 Store, copy the files over to the P2 Store, erase the P2 Card, and reuse it. The AJ-PCS060G will hold data from 7 8Gb P2 cards.

Rob

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Dashwood

They also have the chart comparing media costs. I like how they point out that the HVX200 shooting P2 will cost $17,599 per hour! Very funny. They included ProHD-HDD (Firestore) but didn't mention that Panasonic will also have their own version of firestore for DVCPROHD.

http://pro.jvc.com/prof/Attributes/f...=13#media_cost

Tim Dashwood · November 24th, 2005, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Rock

The system that Panny is using does not connect to the camera, nor does it work like the Firestore for DV or HDV. You still have to record to the P2 cards, then remove the P2 cards from the camera, insert them (one at a time) into the AJ-PCS060G P2 Store, copy the files over to the P2 Store, erase the P2 Card, and reuse it. The AJ-PCS060G will hold data from 7 8Gb P2 cards.

Rob

That's true, but I was referring to the fact that a DVCPROHD version of Firestore is set to be released within months - specifically for use with the HVX200. I think it might be a little unfair for JVC not to include that info in their chart.

http://nleguide.com/SYPHAnewsitems20...050914-09.html

Stephen L. Noe · November 24th, 2005, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Dashwood

...I think it might be a little unfair for JVC not to include that info in their chart.

As of the posting date of the updated FAQ pages, the firestore (or the HVX200 for that matter) does not exist on the market to purchase. Maybe they'll update it once the HVX200's FS is actually available?

Chris Hurd · November 25th, 2005, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Rock

The system that Panny is using does not connect to the camera, nor does it work like the Firestore for DV or HDV. You still have to record to the P2 cards, then remove the P2 cards from the camera, insert them (one at a time) into the AJ-PCS060G P2 Store, copy the files over to the P2 Store, erase the P2 Card, and reuse it. The AJ-PCS060G will hold data from 7 8Gb P2 cards.

Hi Rob, you're not describing the DVCPRO HD FireStore there, but rather the AJ-PCS060 P2 Store, which as Tim Dashwood points out above is an entirely different animal. The DVCPRO HD FireStore from Focus Enhancements is a 100GB hard disk recorder which connects to a P2 camera directly via FireWire. The model number is the FireStore DS-100. This is what Tim was referring to when he said that Panasonic would have their own version of the FireStore for DVCPRO HD.

Guy Barwood · November 26th, 2005, 08:08 PM

"Can the GY-HD100U provide a downconverted DV signal via the 1394 connector?"

I love the way they take about 300+ words to say "No".

Rather tahn 4:2:0 HDV being downsampled to 4:1:0, I would think it would be closer to being capable of being downsampled to 4:2:2. UPsampling DV 4:2:0 to HDV would be what would give you HDV 4:1:0....
JVC just seem to be making excuses again for not putting in an important feature.

Graeme Nattress · November 27th, 2005, 11:15 AM

You'd have to really try hard to implement downsampling HDV to DV very wrongly to generate a 4:1:0 result. For JVC to suggest that this is the case is wrong. This JVC "faq" continues to make me angry.

Graeme

Robert Rock · November 27th, 2005, 05:16 PM

I hadn't heard about this. If it really is going to happen, I'm definately going to set my sights on the HVX-200.

Has there been any talk about variable frame rate capabilities??????

Rob

Barry Green · November 28th, 2005, 02:34 AM

You should probably direct your questions over in the HVX forum. As a quick answer, yes there's been an announcement for the HVX, yes it'll be able to record the variable frame rates (as transmitted within a 60p data stream), and yes there will be other products besides the FireStore (Specialized Communications has announced that they'll be introducing their own hard disk recorder at the upcoming Government Video Expo).

November 24th, 2005, 02:24 PM	#1
Tim Dashwood Wrangler Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 3,637	JVC has updated their FAQ again. So now the FAQ says "What is the native resolution of the chips in the GY-HD100?" instead of "Rarely, a faint vertical line appears in the centre of the screen - is this normal?" At least they didn't delete the explanation of SSE. http://pro.jvc.com/prof/Attributes/f...re_id=13#chips They also have the chart comparing media costs. I like how they point out that the HVX200 shooting P2 will cost $17,599 per hour! Very funny. They included ProHD-HDD (Firestore) but didn't mention that Panasonic will also have their own version of firestore for DVCPROHD. http://pro.jvc.com/prof/Attributes/f...=13#media_cost

November 27th, 2005, 11:15 AM	#7
Graeme Nattress RED Problem Solver Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,365	You'd have to really try hard to implement downsampling HDV to DV very wrongly to generate a 4:1:0 result. For JVC to suggest that this is the case is wrong. This JVC "faq" continues to make me angry. Graeme __________________ www.nattress.com - filters for FCP

November 27th, 2005, 05:16 PM	#8
Robert Rock Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: Freeport, Texas Posts: 25	Firestore for DVC Pro HD???? I hadn't heard about this. If it really is going to happen, I'm definately going to set my sights on the HVX-200. Has there been any talk about variable frame rate capabilities?????? Rob

November 26th, 2005, 08:08 PM	#6
Guy Barwood Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 423	"Can the GY-HD100U provide a downconverted DV signal via the 1394 connector?" I love the way they take about 300+ words to say "No". Rather tahn 4:2:0 HDV being downsampled to 4:1:0, I would think it would be closer to being capable of being downsampled to 4:2:2. UPsampling DV 4:2:0 to HDV would be what would give you HDV 4:1:0.... JVC just seem to be making excuses again for not putting in an important feature.

November 28th, 2005, 02:34 AM	#9
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	You should probably direct your questions over in the HVX forum. As a quick answer, yes there's been an announcement for the HVX, yes it'll be able to record the variable frame rates (as transmitted within a 60p data stream), and yes there will be other products besides the FireStore (Specialized Communications has announced that they'll be introducing their own hard disk recorder at the upcoming Government Video Expo).