ABC and HD100 at DVinfo.net

Tip McPartland · March 29th, 2006, 02:05 AM

I just received an e-mail that covered me on a post from another forum by a guy named Walter Graff. I know I can't cut and paste in quotes so I'll paraphrase a bit.

The "ABC lab" tested eleven HD100 cameras and loves them, says they're the best in the class. They are now using two of them on Good Morning America for "beauty shots." The post also says that the shaders say the cameras are as good as "the $100,000" cameras.

They've sent six cameras back to get the "A" upgrade so they can use the hard disks to record more programming. This is cool news that a big four network is using the HD100 for broadcast programming.

The poster also says that he's tested the camera extensively to try and get motion artifacts, and can't get any. Well, maybe he didn't try hard enough, but it does seem that for him at least there's no problem there.

The poster also says he's tested the sound and found it to be excellent, which dovetails with my own field experience so far.

Tip McPartland

Steve Mullen · March 29th, 2006, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Tip McPartland

The poster also says that he's tested the camera extensively to try and get motion artifacts, and can't get any. Well, maybe he didn't try hard enough, but it does seem that for him at least there's no problem there.

Not clear at all what you mean by "motion artifacts."

1) Do you mean motion artifacts from 30fps with Smooth Filter ON?

2) Do you mean motion artifacts from 30fps with Smooth Filter OFF?

4) Do you mean MPEG-2 motion artifacts?

Tip McPartland · March 29th, 2006, 09:56 AM

Steve,

Per Walter Graff, there are NO motion artifacts, but I think it's safe to say that he means MPEG problems rather than strobing from 24 or 30P which you might find on any camera using either of those frame rates if panning at the wrong speeds, etc. -- including film!

As the English language wraps itself around these new technologies, I believe that the usage pattern developing is to use "motion artifacting" for MPEG and other compression issues like you see in high detail areas on Dish Network with medium speed pans and so forth.

I remember working a an independent feature shot in HDCAM 24P and watching a 24P monitor. I was horrified at how stroby zoom and pans looked. The same for high motion shoots with DVX100 at 24P.

In the post Graff did say that ABC's ONLY concern about the HD100 was the possibility of strobing if used for football or other fast action sports.

Did you get to the original post yet? I sent most of it to you privately via the JVC forum, but of course did not post it. There's more positive feedback on the camera.

I'm still waiting to get my subscriptions to that list confirmed, and when/if I do, then I'll post a link, but anyone going there will have to subscribe to read the posts.

Tip

Steven Thomas · March 29th, 2006, 10:15 AM

Thanks for the info Tip.

The HD100 is one heck of a camera.

I can't wait to see what JVC has up their sleeves in the near future.

March 29th, 2006, 02:05 AM	#1
Tip McPartland Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Crestline, California Posts: 351	ABC and HD100 I just received an e-mail that covered me on a post from another forum by a guy named Walter Graff. I know I can't cut and paste in quotes so I'll paraphrase a bit. The "ABC lab" tested eleven HD100 cameras and loves them, says they're the best in the class. They are now using two of them on Good Morning America for "beauty shots." The post also says that the shaders say the cameras are as good as "the $100,000" cameras. They've sent six cameras back to get the "A" upgrade so they can use the hard disks to record more programming. This is cool news that a big four network is using the HD100 for broadcast programming. The poster also says that he's tested the camera extensively to try and get motion artifacts, and can't get any. Well, maybe he didn't try hard enough, but it does seem that for him at least there's no problem there. The poster also says he's tested the sound and found it to be excellent, which dovetails with my own field experience so far. Tip McPartland

March 29th, 2006, 09:56 AM	#3
Tip McPartland Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Crestline, California Posts: 351	NO motion artifacts Steve, Per Walter Graff, there are NO motion artifacts, but I think it's safe to say that he means MPEG problems rather than strobing from 24 or 30P which you might find on any camera using either of those frame rates if panning at the wrong speeds, etc. -- including film! As the English language wraps itself around these new technologies, I believe that the usage pattern developing is to use "motion artifacting" for MPEG and other compression issues like you see in high detail areas on Dish Network with medium speed pans and so forth. I remember working a an independent feature shot in HDCAM 24P and watching a 24P monitor. I was horrified at how stroby zoom and pans looked. The same for high motion shoots with DVX100 at 24P. In the post Graff did say that ABC's ONLY concern about the HD100 was the possibility of strobing if used for football or other fast action sports. Did you get to the original post yet? I sent most of it to you privately via the JVC forum, but of course did not post it. There's more positive feedback on the camera. I'm still waiting to get my subscriptions to that list confirmed, and when/if I do, then I'll post a link, but anyone going there will have to subscribe to read the posts. Tip

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March 29th, 2006, 10:15 AM	#4
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	Thanks for the info Tip. The HD100 is one heck of a camera. I can't wait to see what JVC has up their sleeves in the near future.