New Hangout & NAB Invitation
 

Well, it looks like Jared Land has elected to serve only those filmmakers using Panasonic products and the Red line which has yet to make an appearance. This of course is his perrogative but I'm sorry he's elected to go this route. Independent filmmakers need a home where they can go to discuss issues and find help and that's what Jared provided which is precisely why people like me invested the time we did on his site. We enjoy imparting our knowledge and meeting others in the industry. I guess everything happens for a reason.

As I make the logical move over to DVi, I must first say that I hope the people who called DVX home will make the move also. We've found a way to do alot of good in the JVC community of users and I'm pleased to have been able to have provided a little of that help. And I'm sure others like Stephen in Chicago feel the same way.

We have a gathering planned at put names with faces NAB this year and with the JVC area having been dropped from the DVX site without notice, all of those people, 23 at last count, who were waiting to hear where the gathering would be now have no way of finding out.

So, let me make my first regular posting here an invitation for all of those who care to to join us at NAB for a small gathering. I have the e-mail addresses of about 11 of the former DVX / JVC owners/shooters and they're coming over and we'd be pleased to see all of those filmmakers with whom we've conversed over the last year. It's an opportunity to share good food and dring and conversation while at NAB.

Instead of flying in, I'll be driving our newest motor coach in and staying at the Circus Circus KOA Luxury Motor Coach facility which is located right behind the Circus-Circus Hotel and Casino on the strip. I've never been there but the only other three luxury motor coach facilities are not just 2-blocks from the Convention Center like this one is so Circus-Circus it is.

The address is 500 Circus Circus Dr., Las Vegas 89109, (702)733-9707 or (800) 562-7270 but again it's actually on the strip at Riviera Drive and if you walk up Riviera 2 blocks you'll hit the Convention Center.

I won't have a space number until I arrive this Friday afternoon at which time I'll post that space number here. For now, though, know that it's planned for 6:00pm Monday April 24 and anyone and everyone's invited, JVC-owners or not.

There'll be plenty to eat and drink from Royal Crown cola to Crown Royal liquor and from Champagne to Chartreuse together with all kinds of food. You can fit about 15-18 in our big coach and another 50 outside and if it does get bigger than that, I have the pool area, cabanas and game room available so whether there's 5 or 500, we should have it covered.

The idea is to get together to put some faces with the names we've been using all year and to share our stories about filmmaking, television production and the JVC camera. If he's back from London, George Dibbie will be there and with 8 Emmy awards and 11 nominations, you could spend the entire night just listening to him.

Also, we'll have the rough cuts of "2nd Unit" playing on the plasma in the main salon area of the coach so you can all see what we we were up to on location in Tunica this last week with the show and Ed Hill and Warren Schultz.

It should be alot of fun and I hope you all can make it. Please PM me so we can get a rough estimate of those who are planning to attend and we'll see you there. Any other questions, call me at 661-305-9564 and lastly, I'll post the Space Number here on Friday as soon as I have it. It should be a great time and I'm happy to welcome you all.

Jonathan

PS. One thing I will miss is no spell check. I'm the world's worst typist!

no other camera's at dvxuser
 

I must admit Jonathon, I was greatly disappointed this morning to check one of three sites I visit for my daily fix, thats dvinfo,hdforindies and dvxuser, to find no longer the other camera section, do you think or know whether this is a deliberate action to leave out sony and jvc, or is it Jareds just reconfiguring the site, and is yet to put the other camera section back in.

If its gone, it would be a tragedy for the reasons you've already stated

Hello Jonathan,

Welcome to DVINFO and those other HD100 users who plan to join you here. I want to encourage you and the others to read up on our posting policies because we run a pretty tight ship with regards to how others are treated.

No flaming, ranting, personal attacks, platform wars, political, religious discussions because they tend to polarize and degrade into personal attacks at some point. DVINFO is what it says in the name of the forum. A place to gather and discuss creating digital video and the associated issues that surround the process.

Just look at the threads and you'll get the picture. You will find this to be one of the most congenial sites on the internet because we keep it that way, all day, every day.

Sounds like quite the party you have planned there!

Best of luck and welcome again,

Greg Boston

*Hey everyone.. I made the choice to go back to our roots.. nothing against any other companies... It was just hard for anyone to post anything other then their own respective forum, and it started to get ugly when people went exploring. Im bringing back DVXuser to the cameras i feel best suit our audience. It is in our name.

That is why I am directing people here, DVinfo has always been a great place for EVERYONE, always has, and probably always will be. Sorry to upset some people, It was a very hard decision.

You know what, when put in those words it makes absolute sense.

Jarred, thanks for the post, I understand your position and I'm sure it was a hard decision.

In the future (for all forum moderators) can I just suggest a notice is posted with a few days notice so some of us can go through and grab any information we find useful before it's sent to the forums graveyard, perhaps locking the threads for read only?

Just my friendly advice :)

Nothing wrong with that decision, Jarred. But I am surprised there wouldn't have been any advance warning. I don't personally know that there wasn't, just getting that vibe from the postings above.

-gb-

Just to follow up behind Jarred, I'd like to point out one of our many unreasonable and completely pointless (yet firmly enforced) rules: no dissing other sites please, or other site owners for that matter. That's not what we're here for. If you want to discuss the technical aspects of the gear and their creative applications, then you're warmly welcomed here.

Reply
 

Well Adam, I can say is, as you know we were on location all week in Tunica MS and I jumped on a plane there at 7 this morning to get back here for Easter. In the time that I was in the air to right now, I've had 47, yes 47 e-mails from people at DVxUser who were afraid they couldn't get to me and others through DVxUser like Stephen now that it's been closed to JVC and others. And everyone, I mean everyone is expressing outrage at what's happpened. Many of them are questioning Jared's motivation and some don't care about his motivation but rather his lack of sensitivity in not "giving notice" and that's verbatim; "giving notice" so people could get their affairs together and have time to move elsewhere.

As for me, I have to say that I give Jared credit for doing something that's very difficult; running a Board and if he did, as many suspect, "sell out" to Panasonic and believe me I have no way of knowing if he did or not, I have to say, bully for him. But in knowing Jared as well or as little as I do, remember, I've only been here for about 6-moths (seems like longer, huh?) I have to say that "selling out" is just not his style. This guy puts in countless hours every day and it's one thing for us who work in the industry to come to a Board daily, give our 2 cents with either questions, comments or help and then head back to our jobs but the people that I know that run Boards like this, including Jared, well, let's just say money isn't their motivating factor. He cares. I care. That's why we're producing 2nd Unit. That's why we're still going to promote HVXBootcamp. That's why we're throwing the parties at NAB and that's way we should embrace Jared's decision no natter the reasoning and use the oppportunity we have here with DVInfo to continue the work we started over there. There's no reason they can't be sister organizations...or brother organizations I should say.

As to why the no-notice, I don't know. That certainly would have been the right thing to do but there has to be a reason. People who do what Jared and the dozens of others who run these Boards do who don't do it for the money but to help their fellow man don't do hurtful things on purpose. I guess what I'm trying to say is yeah, it sucks not being at DVXuser because it was so comfortable. But this is another place that can be just as good and better. I've already sent a couple of e-mails to Jared and had a pair of responses. Let's see if we can continue what Jared and I planned and have people head over to the motor coach and pool facilities at 6 and then over to Jared's bash right after. They're only a couple of blocks away from eachother.

And thanks for the PM and e-mail and phone call responses I got wondering where I was going. I hope to see everyone at our parties.

Wow
 

Wow, in the time it took me to answer Adams one post, 6 others came in on Adam's issue. Well, thankfully, all I can say is I told you so. Guys like Jared don't dump things they've built to help people just to hurt them. These people put in, again, countless hours doing this and it's a great service for the independent filmmaker. So, let's take Monday's party at the motor coach and Circus-Circus and make it a new start for JVC at DVInfo.net and then head over to DVXuser's party. I know 47...no 48 people who are going to be here alot more and seeing Stephen and Tim already here, it'll be a great forum so it should be a great pair of parties!!!.

Greg's Message
 

Thanks, Greg. What I can say about the JVC area of Jared's board was that, at least in the last 6-months I've been there, people have always conducted themselves with the utmost of decorum. There were no flames to speak of and nothing got out of hand. As a matter of fact, I had two shooters from DVxuser join me in Tunica, MS for a production last week so it's a failry tight family.

I know the no notice was a crappy thing to do to you guys, and I am sorry that it had to go that way. I decided if I did give warning, it might turn into a negative storm and people's anger might be contagious.

You guys can still get to the old posts if you need info here:

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/forumdisplay.php?f=67&s=

Again.. sorry for cutting you guys out, but as you know Chris will take very good care of you.

Jonathan,

Welcome to DV Info. I have been a poster/reader of both forums. The JVC forum at DVX was like a family as you described, but the forum here is full of working professionals that I think you will find, provide a useful place for the exchange of ideas, questions and tech info. You will find users such as Nate, Tim and Stephen here just like they were on DVX.

Chris Hurd has a high level of standards on this site and this has helped to keep DV Info a great place to learn as well as share with others.

I look forward to the quality of your posts here after reading you on DVX.

Dan Weber

Just for the record Jonathan, I wasn't of the belief that you would engage in such behavior. But, the popularity of this site has led to an influx of 'undesirables' that have already had to go find a new home. I have no doubt that your bunch of JVC shooters will add tremendous knowledge and information to DVINFO.

-gb-

p.s. Tunica? You could have easily run into my mom and dad. They live in central Arkansas but visit Tunica very frequently.

Thank you
 

Thank you, Dan, for that most kind post and I hope you too will be able to join us at NAB.

I know that and thank you. As for Tunica, my first time down there. What a gambling mecca! Quite surprising but some beautiful casinos. Not at all what I was expecting but four days anywhere on location is enough.

Jonathan,

I would love to, but this year (my 8th at NAB) I am bringing my wife along since her birthday is during NAB and we will be going out for dinner that night. I will look here for an update on the haps at the party!!!

Dan Weber

i'll miss dvxuser. i liked hanging out in the back room. i always thought of the jvc room as "the ghetto" which was cool . gave us a kind of street cred. okay, let's get this place rocking!

Please wish her a very happy birthday and yes, please check the posts.

Welcome aboard guys. I am known simply as "dashwood" over on dvxuser.

For those ex-DVXuser people discovering dvinfo for the first time, I'd like to stress that there have always been a few subtle differences between the two boards that you should be aware of.

I know that Chris' mandate is that dvinfo.net is a searchable library of useful facts pertaining to gear and techniques. It is important to us to filter out FUD and contribute as much helpful information as possible to owners/operators (current or potential) of any manufacturer's gear.

If you are looking for a "clubhouse" or "chatroom" vibe, you won't really find it here - and that's what I like most about dvinfo. Around these parts we don't use aliases or avatars - we are "real people" with "real info" (as the fine print states at the bottom of every page.) Also, we don't have inline IMG tags turned on.

Here's some useful links if you are thinking of starting a thread that doesn't wholly relate to the HD100:

If you need to crew up for a shoot, please visit our "helping hands" forum.

If you are having post issues with Final Cut Pro, check out "Final Cut Pro for HDV" or "Lumière HD for Final Cut Pro."

For PC post issues check out Vegas HDV Forum, Cineform Software Forum, or HD/HDV Editing Solutions" for everything else.

Sound questions can be directed to "Now Hear This."

If you are interested in using 35mm lenses, then go to the P+S Technik Mini35 forum or for info on homebuilt versions the Alternative Imaging Methods forum.

You can show off your finished work in DV for the Masses (please respect copyright.)

Talk about everything else in "TOTEM: Totally Off Topic, Everything Media"

Subject to change... Tim has been hammering on me!

Thanks for the super-informative post, Tim, all those links are much appreciated.

Just to be clear.. this has nothing to do with Panasonic.. its not a marketing trick. And Panasonic doesnt pay for DVXuser.com. Thats why Red is still there, because I have faith in the camera... just like I have faith in the HVX and the DVX.

There is only one person that decides what cameras are and arn't on DVXuser.com, and thats me. Like alot of people in this thread mentioned how DVinfo isn't a clubhouse, thats what DVXuser used to be and thats what i want it to be once again. A tight community with a common tool.

Yeah, I really don't appreciate the conspiracy theories being thrown around... I'm already removing some of them. Can we keep this topic focused on the J. Ames NAB party please. How Jarred runs his site is his own business and I can certainly relate to that.

I respect Jarred's decision. I believe it's easy to understand why he has decided to stay focused on Panasonic; afterall, it is DVXUSER.
We all just thought it was odd the switch was thrown without
any notice.

At the same time, I'm glad we have found a common place here at dvinfo.
Dvinfo has always been about an open community. I like to keep current with new technology regardless whose badge is pinned on it.

Thanks Jared
 

Yes, hats off to you anyway Jared, I didn't at all have hard feelings, just a little surprise, thanks for taking the time to explain you position, and yes it makes sense, as the title "DVXUser" seemed to not give enough weight to the many subforums you were hosting. Heck, I'll still swing by and visit, especially after something tantalizing at NAB may get me all fired up with Panasonic again. And to everyone at DVInfo, it's great to be a part of a great community here as well,only wish I didn't live on the other side of the planet, or I'd definitely have a beer with you at NAB 2006. My Church finally gets two HD101's this week and another the week following, mainly live stuff, but we do record, and then stream the material over the internet. We infact, as far as I'm aware, have the first completely cyber church in the world, as in, it's not a website for a church, but a church which only exists in cyberspace, basically for those who are too remote or sick to attend a service.
And no I'm not preaching guys, don't be afraid. I'm a cameraman and visionswitcher/director, so I'm here to get into the tech and method of the art. I'm buying my own HD101 at the end of the year to do documentary, event videography, and short film work.
So to all you lucky guys'n'gals over there, enjoy NAB, I guess I'll just hunt around and download/stream as much footage I can : )

Is it dead or hiding?
 

ADMIN NOTE: This was a new thread that I instead merged into this one. Tim

the HD100 forum appears not to have been closed but moved, to "off topics".
what's the situation?

edit: thread title was supposed to say "Is it dead or hiding"?

Huh? Looks like it's in the "affordable high definition acquisition" group where it's always been... http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/forumdisplay.php?f=61

I believe you can only read and not post now in these "other" forums

hi boyd,

i was referring to dvxuser.

and as far as i can tell, active posting is still permited.

Y'all can find it at http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/forumdisplay.php?f=52 -- hope this helps,

yes.. as i posted before the threads still remain and are active.. they are just off topic now. They kinda always were off topic, but its just now more official.

Wow.
We're all here now. How cool is this. I used to frequent both boards. DVX for the people, and here for both the people and the technical info (which there's tons). Now I have a one stop shop. :)

Welcome all!

Yes, the board will be better than ever and having Jonathan here will be a huge benefit to those that never browsed dvxuser.com.

Yes, Jonathan has been a great service to the JVC community.
His generousity has been enourmous willing to help others in a bind.

I hope to see you guys at the JVC party... unless Red has a private party... lol...

Thanks, guys. For some of us, it's all about giving back to the community that put us where we are today. The film community gets a bad rap generally and while some people ion it deserve it, most do not. This is a close, family community and we all give and take as we need but we all have to do both otherwise it doesn't work. Some of the best posts I've ever read came from Tim Dashwood, Barry Green, Stephen Noe and others who seemed only to drop in to dvxuser. Not knowing this was their home, I never knew where they went. People like Stephen Noe with his vast reservoir of knowledge spent alot of time there as well but I alwasys thought that was his home. Come to discover that DVInfo exists and this is the real tech home.

You'll have to forgive my ignorance. I simply don't have the time to frequent the boards and only spent so much time on dvxuser because of Jared, the prople there and the fact that I cold help people who needed help there. Helping and teaching is just what I love to do like it is for George Dibbie. That's, again, why we're producing 2nd Unit out of pocket. We're in the hopes that seeing a television production from inside out will help people understand what goes into it. 2nd Unit should answer alot of questions and help alot of people especially with feedback from Tim and Barry and the others. It was designed for the Internet to accompany the three shows we're shooting for network right now so hopefully we can use dvinfo like dvxuser to touch as many people as we can.

Again, thanks for the kind words and let's get back to work.

This is why I really admire what Jarred has done with his site within the span of three short years... DVX User is so freakin' huge now that it's got folks who've never even heard of us! And we're not exactly all that small! Heh. Simply amazing. Jarred grew his site to be bigger than mine in less than half the time it's taken me to get just this far. That impresses the hell out of me. I'm glad there's only one of him!

Apologies for the OT post,

Glade to be aboard!
 

Well, I know one thing the JVC user site here will continue to grow to an enormous and very informative, educational and professional stature Im sure and Jonathan amoung others will be a great contribution to all of it. See all of you at the NAB party on Monday.

But your mantra has always been quality over quantity. That's not to say there was no quality elsewhere, it's just that post counts and membership numbers are not the primary concern at DVINFO as I understand it.

-gb-

Johnathan Great to find you. I was very dissappointed that the other website didn't post anything about not having jvc users . I just purchased my camera recently an found BOTH websites to be a valuable asset.
I guess this is now the only website for JVC users.
DV info has always been a great website for info an I will visit it every day.
As a matter of fact I purchased my camera through Texastape.