JVC NAB Press Releases

Steve Mullen · April 24th, 2006, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Dashwood

I'll definitely be going to the JVC booth on Tuesday afternoon after the press briefing.

You don't have to wait for Tuesday as the HDV@Work Newsletter will have my story on both new camcorders. It will go out to subscribers at about noon PST on Monday.

Approximate prices and delivery date will be included. (Hint, you don't need to worry, as some have done, about any immediate impact on your HD100.)

The report will also deal with the 60p concerns that some have had.

Still don't know if 60p will go to DTE at greater than 19Mbps or if PCM audio will be supported. We'll all know in 8 hours.

Barry Green · April 24th, 2006, 02:04 AM

HD200 = $7995
Due October 2006
http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/p...&feature_id=08

HD250 = $8995
Due October 2006
http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/p...&feature_id=08

Steve Mullen · April 24th, 2006, 02:36 AM

Folks should note the HD200 data are still marked "Tentative" in the JVC press release available at 1:30AM PST. That's because the issue of the shipping configuration(s) was still not set last week when I talked to JVC for my story.

So before folks run-off upon reading Barry's post feeling they now know the final information, remember things may or may not change when the show opens. Which is exactly why I published and posted what I called "approximate" information.

Jemore Santos · April 24th, 2006, 03:37 AM

I wonder how good the compression is on 60p then, it sounds like a sweet deal, hopefully in the near future I could trade in my HD100 for one of these babies. How much was the HD100 in america when they officially released it at NAB? Also will new fujinon lenses come out for the ProHD family, and would the new HD200 or HD250 use the same stock lense as the HD100? oooh I can't wait to find out.

Mike Marriage · April 24th, 2006, 03:42 AM

There's gotta be a good selection of lenses on the way. Good!

It sounds like the front end is the same as the HD100 and just the recording and outputs have been upgraded.

Brian Drysdale · April 24th, 2006, 04:09 AM

Is the HZ-CA13U – 1/3” bayonet mount to PL mount going to have some form of correction for the prism block?

Film camera lenses aren't designed for use on video cameras with a prism block and this is the reason for the interest in the single sensor cameras.

Jeff Morrissette · April 24th, 2006, 04:20 AM

Impressed!! Is this the only hdv camera that will do 60p? If so the canon will get a run for it's money. I wonder if they have an upgrade coming out soon.

Serge Victorovich · April 24th, 2006, 05:16 AM

720p60 on tape? This option, imo only for recording to DR-HD100U.

David Parks · April 24th, 2006, 07:11 AM

http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/p...&feature_id=08

I'm impressed. JVC has a boat load of stuff for a full work flow... Even monitors..

Kaku Ito · April 24th, 2006, 08:33 AM

Hm, tempting.

Adam Craig · April 24th, 2006, 10:02 AM

I made a few wiki pages to collect hard data:
http://www.showiki.com/wiki/GY-HD200U
http://www.showiki.com/wiki/GY-HD250U

Earl Thurston · April 24th, 2006, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Young

(re: PL adapter) I was at the booth today during setup, and from what I heard, it will work on an HD100 as well, but the image will be flipped and upside down.

Even so, that's still great. Anyone like myself using Aspect HD can flip the image during capture. Monitoring the image isn't too bad either because the viewfinder could be mounted upside-down with a bit of tinkering.

Really looking forward to this, and the other 1/3" lens options purportedly coming.

Matt Jeppsen · April 24th, 2006, 10:37 AM

Hi all, been trying to post these details since around 10am CST at FresHDV.com, but stinkin Blogger is down (again) and I can't publish...but I digress.

Here's what I (think) I know:
*4:2:2 10-bit directly off the chip (none of this Panny-like colorspace upconverting hanky-panky)
*Shoots 60P all the time (just like the Varicam)
*Enhanced Cinema Gamma (whatever that means, we shall see)
*HD-SDI out with embedded audio, time code synch, genlock. HD-SDI completely bypasses MPEG-2 processing ("right off the chip")
*Improved MPEG encoder ("twice as good" is what I heard)
*Optional HZ-CA13U 16mm Film Lens Adapter to allow the use of PL mount 16/35mm lenses directly on the camera. This adapter allows the use of standard commodity SLR lenses as well. Note that this has no effect on depth of field, this is simply an to fill the gap of no existing line of high-quality 1/3" lenses. You would still want to use a 35mm adapter like the RedRock Micro for DOF...which brings me to my next bullet point.
*Optional image flip built-in the camera (Image Inversion). The flip happens ON CHIP, and is activated with a menu setting. This is a direct result of collaboration with RedRock, and is perfect for those that use RedRock and other variety of 35mm adapters.
*Optional DR-HD100U Hard Disk Drive Recorder, records to tape and disk at same time. 80GB drive = 7+ hrs of HD. Open files directly into FCP using native .mov structure.

That's what a little bird said, anyway...

Stephen L. Noe · April 24th, 2006, 11:42 AM

Matt, That's funny, encoder is "twice" as good. It had better be, it's recording twice the amount of frames per second!

Matt Jeppsen · April 24th, 2006, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen L. Noe

Matt, That's funny, encoder is "twice" as good. It had better be, it's recording twice the amount of frames per second!

Hehe, insightful observation...
I realize that you are speaking tongue-in-cheek, but to clarify...I believe that was in reference to the quality of the encoder, not so much the sheer throughput. Of course, it all remains to be seen. Hopefully JVC left the "SSE option" off these models... :-)

April 24th, 2006, 02:36 AM	#18
Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	Folks should note the HD200 data are still marked "Tentative" in the JVC press release available at 1:30AM PST. That's because the issue of the shipping configuration(s) was still not set last week when I talked to JVC for my story. So before folks run-off upon reading Barry's post feeling they now know the final information, remember things may or may not change when the show opens. Which is exactly why I published and posted what I called "approximate" information. __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c

April 24th, 2006, 03:37 AM	#19
Jemore Santos Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Tokyo/Sydney Posts: 297	I wonder how good the compression is on 60p then, it sounds like a sweet deal, hopefully in the near future I could trade in my HD100 for one of these babies. How much was the HD100 in america when they officially released it at NAB? Also will new fujinon lenses come out for the ProHD family, and would the new HD200 or HD250 use the same stock lense as the HD100? oooh I can't wait to find out. __________________ "eyes through a digital world"

April 24th, 2006, 07:11 AM	#24
David Parks Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Houston Posts: 789	JVC LCD's http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/p...&feature_id=08 I'm impressed. JVC has a boat load of stuff for a full work flow... Even monitors.. __________________ David Parks: DP/Editor: Jacobs Aerospace at NASA Johnson Space Center https://www.youtube.com/user/JacobsESCG

April 24th, 2006, 10:02 AM	#26
Adam Craig Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 82	I made a few wiki pages to collect hard data: http://www.showiki.com/wiki/GY-HD200U http://www.showiki.com/wiki/GY-HD250U __________________ Thanks! Adam Craig Los Angeles, CA www.showiki.com - Entertainment Biz Wiki www.filmexposure.org - My Media Company

April 24th, 2006, 10:37 AM	#28
Matt Jeppsen Trustee Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Fayetteville, AR Posts: 1,425	JVC HD200/250 details Hi all, been trying to post these details since around 10am CST at FresHDV.com, but stinkin Blogger is down (again) and I can't publish...but I digress. Here's what I (think) I know: 4:2:2 10-bit directly off the chip (none of this Panny-like colorspace upconverting hanky-panky) Shoots 60P all the time (just like the Varicam) Enhanced Cinema Gamma (whatever that means, we shall see) HD-SDI out with embedded audio, time code synch, genlock. HD-SDI completely bypasses MPEG-2 processing ("right off the chip") Improved MPEG encoder ("twice as good" is what I heard) Optional HZ-CA13U 16mm Film Lens Adapter to allow the use of PL mount 16/35mm lenses directly on the camera. This adapter allows the use of standard commodity SLR lenses as well. Note that this has no effect on depth of field, this is simply an to fill the gap of no existing line of high-quality 1/3" lenses. You would still want to use a 35mm adapter like the RedRock Micro for DOF...which brings me to my next bullet point. Optional image flip built-in the camera (Image Inversion). The flip happens ON CHIP, and is activated with a menu setting. This is a direct result of collaboration with RedRock, and is perfect for those that use RedRock and other variety of 35mm adapters. Optional DR-HD100U Hard Disk Drive Recorder, records to tape and disk at same time. 80GB drive = 7+ hrs of HD. Open files directly into FCP using native .mov structure. That's what a little bird said, anyway...

April 24th, 2006, 02:04 AM	#17
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	HD200 = $7995 Due October 2006 http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/p...&feature_id=08 HD250 = $8995 Due October 2006 http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/p...&feature_id=08

April 24th, 2006, 03:42 AM	#20
Mike Marriage Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NE of London, England Posts: 788	There's gotta be a good selection of lenses on the way. Good! It sounds like the front end is the same as the HD100 and just the recording and outputs have been upgraded.

April 24th, 2006, 04:09 AM	#21
Brian Drysdale Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belfast, UK Posts: 6,151	Is the HZ-CA13U – 1/3” bayonet mount to PL mount going to have some form of correction for the prism block? Film camera lenses aren't designed for use on video cameras with a prism block and this is the reason for the interest in the single sensor cameras.

April 24th, 2006, 04:20 AM	#22
Jeff Morrissette Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: venice, ca Posts: 83	Impressed!! Is this the only hdv camera that will do 60p? If so the canon will get a run for it's money. I wonder if they have an upgrade coming out soon.

April 24th, 2006, 05:16 AM	#23
Serge Victorovich Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 376	720p60 on tape? This option, imo only for recording to DR-HD100U.

April 24th, 2006, 08:33 AM	#25
Kaku Ito Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo Posts: 1,382	Hm, tempting.

April 24th, 2006, 11:42 AM	#29
Stephen L. Noe Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,214	Matt, That's funny, encoder is "twice" as good. It had better be, it's recording twice the amount of frames per second!

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