Arghhh 24f vs 24p

[Jeff Morrissette]

I think FCP just announced 24f support.

I hope I'm mistaken, sounds goofy.

They do not support 24p at this time but this 24f thing they do?

It's early, must have missed something.

[Steven Thomas]

I imagine, in this case, it probably means the same thing. Please, correct me if I'm wrong.

[John Mitchell]

No I'm pretty sure 24f is the canon XLH1 pseudo progressive format.

[Steven Thomas]

Originally Posted by John Mitchell

No I'm pretty sure 24f is the canon XLH1 pseudo progressive format.

Yes, I know that, but find it hard to believe they would only implement Canon support.

[Nate Weaver]

Apple is demonstrating both 720p24 and 1080 24F support in a couple places on the floor.

The version they're running is "5.1+ Universal, NAB Technology Demo", I think was the wording. There is no upgrade announced quite yet, but the official word both are coming in "an imminent realease". I also heard it would be a free upgrade, not rolled up into a version 6 release. Man, all those FCP6 rumors were wrong, wrong, wrong.

Don't sweat. At least Apple decided they'd better not keep us hanging any longer.

[Gary McClurg]

At the JVC booth on Monday... the apple guy said that they didn't even have a beta yet... unless I heard wrong... would be nice if I did...

[Stewart Menelaws]

Originally Posted by Nate Weaver

Apple is demonstrating both 720p24 and 1080 24F support in a couple places on the floor.

Think that will include 720p/25.......??????????????????

Stu...
www.studioscotland.co.uk

[Paul Jefferies]

Any news on Avid Xpress Pro taking 720/24 or 720/25?

[Steve Mullen]

Originally Posted by Nate Weaver

The version they're running is "5.1+ Universal, NAB Technology Demo", I think was the wording. There is no upgrade announced quite yet, but the official word both are coming in "an imminent realease".

I got a bit more from the Apple guy. If he's correct, they are not going to remove pull-down during capture. They are going to support the capture of 60p to file. Which is great!

Then the MPEG-2 decoder used to play the Timeline will be enhanced to handle the 24p (25p?) plus 50p and 60p. It will also handle 24F.

This is a big issue since it means going into the FCP code not just the capture code. Hence the delay.

It also suggests a 5.2 or 5.5 release sometime in late spring or early summer. Likely about the same time as Avid's 5.5 release (June).

Avid will not have 24p support in 5.5.

[Jake Strickbine]

Originally Posted by Paul Jefferies

Any news on Avid Xpress Pro taking 720/24 or 720/25?

Yes, but the news is bad. AXP 5.5 is due out in 2nd quarter, and it will support neither 720/24 or 720/25 from the HD100. There will be a 720/24 project type, as there is now in version 5.4.4, but it's DVCProHD specific. In order to work with the HD100, you'll have to capture with another app, convert to DVCProHD, and import to Avid in order to edit.

[Steve Benner]

Originally Posted by Jake Strickbine

Yes, but the news is bad. AXP 5.5 is due out in 2nd quarter, and it will support neither 720/24 or 720/25 from the HD100. There will be a 720/24 project type, as there is now in version 5.4.4, but it's DVCProHD specific. In order to work with the HD100, you'll have to capture with another app, convert to DVCProHD, and import to Avid in order to edit.

The new Media Composer Software Only Program may handle the HDV 24P. But it deffiantly will not handle the 720/25.

Very disappointing regarding the Avid 5.5

Apple better get their act together also.

[Jake Strickbine]

Originally Posted by Steve Benner

The new Media Composer Software Only Program may handle the HDV 24P.

Yes- I'm eagerly awaiting the answer to that myself. The documentation for the new MC on Avid's site kind of leaves that one up in the air. It lists 720p @ 23.976 as a project type- but doesn't specify whether it's DnX/DVCProHD only, or if it's HDV compliant as well.