HD100 and the magnet trick?
 

Does anyone know if the magnet tricks works for flipping the image on the lcd screen? OR if there's a way to do it in camera? (very doubtful)

Thanks

Many of this forum, including myself, have not been able to make it work. I know that if you go through the service menu (I do not recall how to get there), you can flip the image, but mirror image only. The new versions of the camera will have the such flipping capability, so my hope is that we could get it through a firmware update.

Luis Otero

some were able to do it with the HVX (link: http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread...highlight=flip)

i wonder if there is a same flip switch for HD100 LCD

I have been told someone tried to see if the HD100 had the switch, but it was not there. Knowing that the mirror image flipping is done via the service menue, I imagine is a matter of firmware. The HD200 & HD250 will have such option...

Luis

Firmware update? Who at jvc do we bombard with emails to make this happen?

Mr. Ken Freed is one of the names I know. He is even part of this forum. I believe his uncensored email is kfreed at jvc dot com. Maybe other people, or coprporate e-mails may be of great help on this campaing!

Luis

Alright moderators, if you're reading, would this be out of line or of poor taste to email jvc about a firmware update to flip the image for the 100 (even if its only in the view finder) knowing that the 200/250 will be out in october or so?

Hey Gang,

What is the "magnet trick" and what does it accomplish?

Thanks,

Tom Chaney

The magnet trick is to flip the image 180 degrees if you are using an adapter that will give you an inverted image.

Luis

We know what it does, but this thread has yet to mention anything about the "magnet." We've been pointed to an hvx200 switch trick, told about a service menu trick -- and yet the topic is about magnets.

Good point steve; I know small rare earth magnents work for the dvx and the fx1, and assume if the trick were to work for the hd100 it would be the same type of magnent. I'll see if I can find specific magnets people have used with success for other cams.

Why would you want to flip the image. I don't get it? I'm probably going to feel stupid when I get the answer but the curiosity is killing me...

It's for people using the low-cost mini35-style image adapters. Those lens adapters project the image upside-down on a piece of ground glass, which the camera then rephotographs. So your footage is upside-down, and the monitoring is upside-down. The magnet is an attempt to get the LCD to flip itself upside-down, which would then mean that you're able to monitor your footage right-side-up.

Steve,

So far, unless I have missed any posting here, we have been told by this cyber community that there is no switch present in the HD100, nor that they have found a viable way to use the magnet trick to accomplish the flipping of the image. So, my interest here is to ask (or even beg, if needed) to get an update of the firmware since we know JVC will have this option for the HD200/250. So, firmware could be the answer for this image flipping situation/need.

Respectfully,
Luis

See, I do feel stupid. Thanks Barry, as always you guys are a wealth of info.

Poked around in the advanced menu today looking for the mysterious flip option... I'd like to meet who started this rumor... or at least the person who misinterpreted what he or she said;

There is a flip option in the advanced menu.. but it is a left/right flip only.
I repeat, the advanced/service menu flip is a left/right flip only.

Flipping ???
 

Well if i understand it correct, when using mini35 adopter & cine prime on the HD100 makes the image flip up side down that means the recorded image too will be upsidedown, then do we need to re process image to flip it ri8 back in post where by doing some image degradation again ... Pls correct me if wrong cox I am almost ready to place my order for HD100 ... Also whats the news on HD200 250 is it ging to be a refioned version on hd100 .. i would like to wait shoudl there be any signifacant improvement in the newer verison.


I await insight !!!

:)

The recorded and viewable image when using the Mini35 is upright. It's upside down with the Redrock and some other homebrew 35 adapters.

I too have been waiting for the magic instructions. :(

And, yes the image is recorded upside down! But CineForm will flip it for you.

JVC claims that to do a true double flip, hardware is required. It's not just firmware. I've haven't spent time thinking about if this is likely to be true.

If it involves delaying rows for a complete frame time, which I think it might, then it probably does require hardware. So no firmware update for the HD100.

DJ,

What is done through the service menu was already discussed here: only mirror image (see posting #4 of this thread). I never have read of someone claiming to achieve the 180 degree flipping, that was also tried to be achieved using the magnet without any success.

Luis Otero

Thanks Luis, I missed your post, but had heard from several people that they heard it could be done... which was the reason my post was worded as it was.....

And Steve has dashed all hope of a firmware update... but that won't stop me from singing the 100's praises, even after the 200/250 comes out. :)

Actually the mirror flip is more of a blessing that you think. Recently I tried to rig up a mirror option for my FX1 using a free LCD hood I got with my Petrol bag:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search
It's a snug fit and works on any other 3-4" LCD (such as my GL2).

I didn't make any permanent solution, but I just played with mounting a small mirror on the bottom inside of the hood and angling the LCD screen down so that I'm seeing the up side down reflection of the LCD screen in the mirror, similar to a teleprompter setup. The mirro has to be mounted at a 45 degree angle to view it comfortably, but this shouldn't be too hard to figure out. This particular hood is very useful as well because you can unhook the top part of the hood allowing clear viewing to the bottom where the mirror is.

It worked very nicely and could easily be made into a permanent fixture. The only problem is that it was only flipped vertically, not 180 degrees which is up for down, left for right. But combined with the mirror option on the HD100 and you've got the whole flip, right? 180 degrees when viewed through the mirror. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but this sounds like the cheapest way to flip the image for viewing on-camera.

Chad,

That is exactly the way I have done it before in one of our projects in which a converter was used and the imaged needed to be "erected", as they properly say in UK (the suplier of the adapter was from UK, so I needed to made myself used to the same terminology).

Luis