TrueColor V3.0 available on-line

Bill Ravens · November 19th, 2007, 08:28 AM

Steve...

I agree with your statement that ASA "should" be invariant. However, in my own tests on a Canon XL2, I noticed slight variations in the ASA value with changes in shutter speed. This can only be explained, in my mind, by theorizing that the sensitivity of the sensor varies with exposure in a non-linear fashion that isn't compensated by the camera's internal mapping. Another possibility is that the non-linearity is compensated in the light meter calibration. Testing with a separate light meter should answer this question.

Robert Bale · November 19th, 2007, 10:42 PM

Hi, is the true color setting ok for the Hd 201/250 ??

Paolo Ciccone · November 20th, 2007, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Bale

Hi, is the true color setting ok for the Hd 201/250 ??

There is a version that I made for the HD200, see my website: http://www.paolociccone.com

Svein Rune Skilnand · January 11th, 2008, 02:28 PM

[QUOTE=Paolo Ciccone;483025]Hey Enzo, e tu lavori a Hollywood e Cinecitta' ? ;)

"If you do broadcast work normally, TC might be reproducing "illegal" levels. Of course you can reduce them in post but you're settings require less manipulation. I'm aiming at making the HD100 as close as possible to film so I didn't check the values against broadcast levels."

Please forgive me if I get this wrong. I am looking to set up my HD201 with the TC3 colors. I think these settings might be what I am looking for. You say that the TC may represent illegal levels. In what way? I am shooting for broadcast quite often but am not used to setting up my camera, tough Eric Gulbransen has given me some confidence I can. Should I not do this then?

I am also trying to match my HVX200 to the 201 and I am looking for filmlike colors. Thanks in advance.

By the way, this forum is great.
Svein Rune

Paolo Ciccone · January 11th, 2008, 02:40 PM

Svein, it you have a HD200/250, you should use my TrueColor HD200 either version 1.0 or 2.0, the color matrix for the HD200 is completely different from the HD100 and the settings don't apply.
My comment about the "illegal values" means that the camera can produce digital values that are beyond the range of SD broadcast TV. They might be. It depends on what and how you shoot it.

Svein Rune Skilnand · January 11th, 2008, 02:46 PM

Paolo.
Thanks. That was the quickest response ever. Wow.

Are these the settings you refer to?

Master black -2 Color Gain Normal
Black Stretch1 Color Matrix Standard
Detail MIN R Gain 3
White Clip 108% R Rotation 4
Knee Manual G Gain 2
Level 90% G Rotation Normal
Cinelike OFF B Gain 3
Gamma CineLike B Rotation -3
Gamma Level -1

Svein Rune

Joseph A. Benoit · January 11th, 2008, 03:14 PM

Hello Paolo
I have a question
i'm using true color V3.0 (love it)
should i have Motion Smooth on?

thank you
Joe

Paolo Ciccone · January 11th, 2008, 07:52 PM

Joe, Motion Smooth should be yanked out of the camera, if possible
Turn it off, for the love of God man, turn it off ;)

Joseph A. Benoit · January 12th, 2008, 12:54 AM

Hello Paolo
i turn it off
i don't know how it got on i must have done it by mistake
once again you help me
Thank you
Joe

Paolo Ciccone · January 12th, 2008, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Svein Rune Skilnand

Paolo.
Thanks. That was the quickest response ever. Wow.

Are these the settings you refer to?

Nope. TrueColor HD200 is at http://paolociccone.com/TrueColor-HD250-part2.html
Alternatively I have another configuration adjusted for Nikkor lenses but that could work for the stocker as well: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...147#post807147

November 19th, 2007, 10:42 PM	#92
Robert Bale Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: australia Posts: 407	re true color on the HD 201 Hi, is the true color setting ok for the Hd 201/250 ?? __________________ Rob. www.rpbproductions.com robert@rpbproductions.com HD101/G5 Mac/4gig Ram/1TB HDD/30" Cinema Display/FCP.

January 11th, 2008, 02:40 PM	#95
Paolo Ciccone Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 1,116	Svein, it you have a HD200/250, you should use my TrueColor HD200 either version 1.0 or 2.0, the color matrix for the HD200 is completely different from the HD100 and the settings don't apply. My comment about the "illegal values" means that the camera can produce digital values that are beyond the range of SD broadcast TV. They might be. It depends on what and how you shoot it. __________________ Paolo http://www.paolociccone.com Demo Reel

January 11th, 2008, 07:52 PM	#98
Paolo Ciccone Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 1,116	Joe, Motion Smooth should be yanked out of the camera, if possible Turn it off, for the love of God man, turn it off ;) __________________ Paolo http://www.paolociccone.com Demo Reel

November 19th, 2007, 08:28 AM	#91
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	Steve... I agree with your statement that ASA "should" be invariant. However, in my own tests on a Canon XL2, I noticed slight variations in the ASA value with changes in shutter speed. This can only be explained, in my mind, by theorizing that the sensitivity of the sensor varies with exposure in a non-linear fashion that isn't compensated by the camera's internal mapping. Another possibility is that the non-linearity is compensated in the light meter calibration. Testing with a separate light meter should answer this question.

January 11th, 2008, 02:28 PM	#94
Svein Rune Skilnand Major Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fidjeland, Norway Posts: 289	[QUOTE=Paolo Ciccone;483025]Hey Enzo, e tu lavori a Hollywood e Cinecitta' ? ;) "If you do broadcast work normally, TC might be reproducing "illegal" levels. Of course you can reduce them in post but you're settings require less manipulation. I'm aiming at making the HD100 as close as possible to film so I didn't check the values against broadcast levels." Please forgive me if I get this wrong. I am looking to set up my HD201 with the TC3 colors. I think these settings might be what I am looking for. You say that the TC may represent illegal levels. In what way? I am shooting for broadcast quite often but am not used to setting up my camera, tough Eric Gulbransen has given me some confidence I can. Should I not do this then? I am also trying to match my HVX200 to the 201 and I am looking for filmlike colors. Thanks in advance. By the way, this forum is great. Svein Rune

January 11th, 2008, 02:46 PM	#96
Svein Rune Skilnand Major Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fidjeland, Norway Posts: 289	Paolo. Thanks. That was the quickest response ever. Wow. Are these the settings you refer to? Master black -2 Color Gain Normal Black Stretch1 Color Matrix Standard Detail MIN R Gain 3 White Clip 108% R Rotation 4 Knee Manual G Gain 2 Level 90% G Rotation Normal Cinelike OFF B Gain 3 Gamma CineLike B Rotation -3 Gamma Level -1 Svein Rune

January 11th, 2008, 03:14 PM	#97
Joseph A. Benoit Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Coconut Creek FL Posts: 291	Hello Paolo I have a question i'm using true color V3.0 (love it) should i have Motion Smooth on? thank you Joe

January 12th, 2008, 12:54 AM	#99
Joseph A. Benoit Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Coconut Creek FL Posts: 291	Hello Paolo i turn it off i don't know how it got on i must have done it by mistake once again you help me Thank you Joe