Any suggestion for on-camera monitor? at DVinfo.net

Kajito Nagib · July 22nd, 2009, 11:58 PM

I'm looking for an inexpensive on-camera monitor (under $400)
the tiny LCD on the HM100 is very hard to see at least for me it is.
Is the Datavideo TLM700 7" LCD Monitor any good for outdoors monitoring
any other recommendation?

thanks again,

-k

Alex Humphrey · July 24th, 2009, 04:43 PM

well what ever you do, make sure you can return it in 10-14 days for a full refund if you don't like it.

I haven't seen much under $800 that would want to use (DC powered). Marshal is the brand to look at as a baseline. Most camera top monitors are not HD or even close, usually only slightly better resolution than a good camcorder flip out screen. Many are not as bright or contrasty either as odd as that sounds.

Something to think about. Much of my work in the field is stationary and there is 50% of the tme has power, so I drag along a 19" Sony HDTV that I picked up on a whim some time ago. works great.. I have it mounted on a $100 monitor stand so I can roll it around tethered to the camera. I'm sure we will start seeing some decent AC/DC portable HDTV's soon and that could be an option as well.

Jack Walker · July 24th, 2009, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Humphrey

I have it mounted on a $100 monitor stand so I can roll it around tethered to the camera.

Do you by chance have a photo of the monitor on the stand?
Do you have a link to the stand, where it can be bought?
Thanks!

Kajito Nagib · July 24th, 2009, 05:49 PM

Actually I'm considering the new Marshall V-LCD70P-HDMI-JM.
Kind of pricey for me but I'm unable to carry anything heavy
so I always end up paying more for camera accessories. Any of you guys have this monitor?

Bryan Daugherty · July 24th, 2009, 11:32 PM

I have had very good results with my Ikan V8000HD and have heard good things on here in a thread about the SmallHD monitor.

Kajito Nagib · July 25th, 2009, 07:19 AM

hey Brian thanks I'll have a look.

Steve Cottrell · July 26th, 2009, 05:04 AM

I wanted a very small LCD monitor, cheap and cheerful, for using with the HM100 when it's up on a handheld mini-jib, and also for velcro-ing to the side of a big shoulder camera when filming car interiors (British right-hand drive) so got one of these:

3.5" Mobile Freeview TV & Multimedia Player > Advanced Portable TV

I would love to be able to get one of the Ikan Director's:

ikancorp.com: Director LANC Control

and at some point I probably will - but no LANC on the HM100 !! To be honest if you start spending money like that, a Teletest (or similar) wireless setup is the way to go.

HTH

Cotty

Bryan Daugherty · July 26th, 2009, 02:01 PM

Steve - I can see how your model is useful for a jib/boom/crane application but for on camera monitoring it wouldn't be much of an improvement over the one attached to the camera, would it?

One of the many features I like about the Ikan monitor is the standard thread allows me to attach it to the camera shoe via supplied stand (deluxe model), use israeli arm and bracket to hang it off the camera (purchased separately), or thread to a spare tripod and set it close to main tripod. I am thinking about getting a Gorillapod Go-Go! to expand mounting options...

Steve Cottrell · July 27th, 2009, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan Daugherty

Steve - I can see how your model is useful for a jib/boom/crane application but for on camera monitoring it wouldn't be much of an improvement over the one attached to the camera, would it?

Excellent point and it would help if I read the original question properly but my excuse is red and spanish so there!

------> ;-)

Cotty

Battle Vaughan · July 27th, 2009, 03:47 PM

You might look at this: VariZoom | VZ-TFT7 7" LCD Monitor | VZ-TFT-7 | B&H Photo
which fits your camera and price point, I think. We have a couple of similar Varizoom monitors and they have been very satisfactory. Battle Vaughan/miamiherald.com video team

David Johns · July 28th, 2009, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Cottrell

I wanted a very small LCD monitor, cheap and cheerful so got one of these:

3.5" Mobile Freeview TV & Multimedia Player > Advanced Portable TV

Steve, I'm after a cheap and cheerful monitor to plug onto the top of my Sony V1 purely so that when I'm standing right of camera as a videojournalist, I can check shot composition while I'm interviewing ... this looks splendidly cheap and cheerful but I can see no spec on the website for any kind of A/V input to the device. So how are you getting signal from the JVC into the LCD? There's info about how the TV can send A/V OUT to a bigger telly but nothing about inputs...

Thanks
Dave

Kajito Nagib · July 28th, 2009, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battle Vaughan

You might look at this: VariZoom | VZ-TFT7 7" LCD Monitor | VZ-TFT-7 | B&H Photo
which fits your camera and price point, I think. We have a couple of similar Varizoom monitors and they have been very satisfactory. Battle Vaughan/miamiherald.com video team

I'm looking for something that I can adjust to get accurate colors.
One nice feature of the Marshall is that it provides false colors which helps with adjusting iris.

Battle Vaughan · July 28th, 2009, 01:34 PM

Hey, Marshall is nice stuff, but I don't think you will find any in the under $400 range you mentioned, at least new. Their 7 inchers go for around $900 street price and go up from there....BTW< a collegue has a monitor from these people, looks like nice kit (metal case, lots of controls) but maybe heavy to mount on-camera per se. http://www.manhattanlcd.com/ /bvaughan

Steve Cottrell · July 29th, 2009, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Johns

Steve, I'm after a cheap and cheerful monitor to plug onto the top of my Sony V1 purely so that when I'm standing right of camera as a videojournalist, I can check shot composition while I'm interviewing ... this looks splendidly cheap and cheerful but I can see no spec on the website for any kind of A/V input to the device. So how are you getting signal from the JVC into the LCD? There's info about how the TV can send A/V OUT to a bigger telly but nothing about inputs...

Thanks
Dave

Dave, I had a senior moment - for some reason I got it into my head that this device had AV in - as you have rightly discovered, it only has AV out! ACK. I sent it back.

My search continues - otherwise it would have been perfect. No end of 7 inch screens with AV in, but finding a simple monitor with AV in, and runs off its own batteries, that is small and under a hundred bucks - that's the difficulty. It has to be small enough to be literally velcro'd to the side of a big camera, or to be attached anywhere for easy viewing - even worn on the wrist!!

I will let you know when I find it.

Cotty

July 22nd, 2009, 11:58 PM	#1
Kajito Nagib Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 432	Any suggestion for on-camera monitor? I'm looking for an inexpensive on-camera monitor (under $400) the tiny LCD on the HM100 is very hard to see at least for me it is. Is the Datavideo TLM700 7" LCD Monitor any good for outdoors monitoring any other recommendation? thanks again, -k __________________ -kAj http://www.sweetproductionmedia.com/

July 24th, 2009, 05:49 PM	#4
Kajito Nagib Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 432	Actually I'm considering the new Marshall V-LCD70P-HDMI-JM. Kind of pricey for me but I'm unable to carry anything heavy so I always end up paying more for camera accessories. Any of you guys have this monitor? __________________ -kAj http://www.sweetproductionmedia.com/

July 24th, 2009, 11:32 PM	#5
Bryan Daugherty Major Player Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lexington, Ky - USA Posts: 552	I have had very good results with my Ikan V8000HD and have heard good things on here in a thread about the SmallHD monitor. __________________ 3x-HD1000u - Ikan 8000HD- custom i7 PC - Vegas Pro 13 and 11 64 bit - Premiere Pro CS4 - and a whole mess of other equipment...

July 25th, 2009, 07:19 AM	#6
Kajito Nagib Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 432	hey Brian thanks I'll have a look. __________________ -kAj http://www.sweetproductionmedia.com/

July 26th, 2009, 02:01 PM	#8
Bryan Daugherty Major Player Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lexington, Ky - USA Posts: 552	Steve - I can see how your model is useful for a jib/boom/crane application but for on camera monitoring it wouldn't be much of an improvement over the one attached to the camera, would it? One of the many features I like about the Ikan monitor is the standard thread allows me to attach it to the camera shoe via supplied stand (deluxe model), use israeli arm and bracket to hang it off the camera (purchased separately), or thread to a spare tripod and set it close to main tripod. I am thinking about getting a Gorillapod Go-Go! to expand mounting options... __________________ 3x-HD1000u - Ikan 8000HD- custom i7 PC - Vegas Pro 13 and 11 64 bit - Premiere Pro CS4 - and a whole mess of other equipment...

July 24th, 2009, 04:43 PM	#2
Alex Humphrey Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: california North and South Posts: 642	well what ever you do, make sure you can return it in 10-14 days for a full refund if you don't like it. I haven't seen much under $800 that would want to use (DC powered). Marshal is the brand to look at as a baseline. Most camera top monitors are not HD or even close, usually only slightly better resolution than a good camcorder flip out screen. Many are not as bright or contrasty either as odd as that sounds. Something to think about. Much of my work in the field is stationary and there is 50% of the tme has power, so I drag along a 19" Sony HDTV that I picked up on a whim some time ago. works great.. I have it mounted on a $100 monitor stand so I can roll it around tethered to the camera. I'm sure we will start seeing some decent AC/DC portable HDTV's soon and that could be an option as well.

July 26th, 2009, 05:04 AM	#7
Steve Cottrell Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Oxford UK Posts: 110	I wanted a very small LCD monitor, cheap and cheerful, for using with the HM100 when it's up on a handheld mini-jib, and also for velcro-ing to the side of a big shoulder camera when filming car interiors (British right-hand drive) so got one of these: 3.5" Mobile Freeview TV & Multimedia Player > Advanced Portable TV I would love to be able to get one of the Ikan Director's: ikancorp.com: Director LANC Control and at some point I probably will - but no LANC on the HM100 !! To be honest if you start spending money like that, a Teletest (or similar) wireless setup is the way to go. HTH Cotty

July 27th, 2009, 03:47 PM	#10
Battle Vaughan Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami, FL USA Posts: 1,505	You might look at this: VariZoom \| VZ-TFT7 7" LCD Monitor \| VZ-TFT-7 \| B&H Photo which fits your camera and price point, I think. We have a couple of similar Varizoom monitors and they have been very satisfactory. Battle Vaughan/miamiherald.com video team

July 28th, 2009, 01:34 PM	#13
Battle Vaughan Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami, FL USA Posts: 1,505	Hey, Marshall is nice stuff, but I don't think you will find any in the under $400 range you mentioned, at least new. Their 7 inchers go for around $900 street price and go up from there....BTW< a collegue has a monitor from these people, looks like nice kit (metal case, lots of controls) but maybe heavy to mount on-camera per se. http://www.manhattanlcd.com/ /bvaughan Last edited by Battle Vaughan; July 28th, 2009 at 03:00 PM.