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Gregory Murphy · May 12th, 2009, 11:42 AM

I have just bought the JVC HM700 camera with the sxs recorder fitted. JVC emailed me the firmware to get it up and running and told me over the phone how to do it. However I had already bought the MxR expresscard 34 reader for it, hoping to use the SDHC cards instead of the SXS cards but the MR100G does not recognise the card while inserted. I'm wondering is the MR100G only set-up to recognise SXS cards. Can anybody else out there help me? Greg.

Olof Ekbergh · May 12th, 2009, 02:49 PM

I believe the issue is that the SDHC cards work through a USB interface, Sony had to update firmware on the EX1 to be able to use their hard drive and that is what enables the use of SDHC card adapters too.

So JVC will probably have to issue a Firmware update as well to use the USB interface.

David Heath · May 12th, 2009, 05:54 PM

If you want to use SDHC cards with the HM700, can you not just put them straight into the SD slot of the camera itself?

Gregory Murphy · May 13th, 2009, 09:15 AM

I would like to use an SDHC card in the SXS recorder as a backup of the SDHC card in the camera. Its not worth buying a SXS card just for that so an adapter would be very useful and a lot cheaper.

Marcello Mazzilli · May 14th, 2009, 05:01 AM

Great idea.. let us know if you find something that works with it
M

Matt Davis · May 15th, 2009, 01:52 AM

IIRC, the SDHC adaptors work with the EX line only because of the adaptions built into these cameras for the Sony PHU-60K disk recording device which is strictly a USB device.

If the PHU-60K does NOT work with the JVC's SxS (which I think is the case), then I would also surmise that the JVC will NOT take the SDHC cards as its SxS does not have the USB capability that makes the 'magic' work.

Gregory Murphy · May 18th, 2009, 05:48 AM

Does this mean that there is no adapter that will work or would a PCIe compact flash adapter work?

Matt Davis · May 18th, 2009, 08:46 AM

It only means that the current EX1-style SDHC adaptors work via USB. From then on, we get into conjecture.

IIRC, it's moot because the new JVCs record QT to SDHC and the SxS is just an add-on.

Eric Deyerler · May 18th, 2009, 12:12 PM

Normally comes KA-MR100G SxS with a 8 GB SxS-Card, says the JVC-people to me.
Isn`t it?

Matt Davis · May 18th, 2009, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Deyerler

Isn`t it?

I think wires are getting crossed. SxS in SxS slot - no problem. SDHC in adaptor in SxS slot - unresolved, and risky if you're betting the farm on this.

Ron Edwards · May 29th, 2009, 11:51 AM

Since you are looking to use SDHC cards in your SxS module you must not need the module at all. Sell your module and purchase several SDHC cards and HOT SWAP them one at a time on the fly. Less equipment ... the KISS theory.

Sean Adair · May 30th, 2009, 09:50 AM

Ron, I think the reason he wants to do this is to take advantage of recording to both media systems at once, and keeping both media sets at a reasonable price.

Generally, I suspect that this backup approach is not worth the trouble. With quality tested media and proper handling, the SDHC should have an extremely low failure rate - much better than tape for instance.

The converter and added operator/handling of this backup is more likely to introduce issues than actually ever save a piece of footage.

The biggest advantage would be if 2 people had to walk away from ashoot with clones of the footage. 10 minutes with a laptop would usually cover that better.

I'd be curious to know if a way to make it work (SDHC in the SXS box with converters) does come to light.

Daniel Marr · June 13th, 2010, 05:51 AM

Sorry to revive an old thread but I have been wondering about the new adaptors that Sony have released earlier this year.

Does anyone know if these adaptors will work with the KA-MR100G?

Sony : MEAD-MS01 (MEADMS01) : Consumer Memory Stick Adaptor for SxS

Sony : MEAD-SD01 (MEAD-SD01) SDHC Adaptor for SxS

Tim Dashwood · June 14th, 2010, 06:28 PM

No adapter will work with the KA-MR100G because the internal connection that made the adapter function in the EX1 (USB) does not exist on the HM700/790.

Daniel Marr · June 15th, 2010, 03:08 AM

Ok. Thanks for the clarification Tim!

May 12th, 2009, 11:42 AM	#1
Gregory Murphy New Boot Join Date: May 2009 Location: Emyvale, Ireland Posts: 11	JVC KA-MR100G SxS I have just bought the JVC HM700 camera with the sxs recorder fitted. JVC emailed me the firmware to get it up and running and told me over the phone how to do it. However I had already bought the MxR expresscard 34 reader for it, hoping to use the SDHC cards instead of the SXS cards but the MR100G does not recognise the card while inserted. I'm wondering is the MR100G only set-up to recognise SXS cards. Can anybody else out there help me? Greg.

May 13th, 2009, 09:15 AM	#4
Gregory Murphy New Boot Join Date: May 2009 Location: Emyvale, Ireland Posts: 11	ka-mr100g I would like to use an SDHC card in the SXS recorder as a backup of the SDHC card in the camera. Its not worth buying a SXS card just for that so an adapter would be very useful and a lot cheaper.

May 15th, 2009, 01:52 AM	#6
Matt Davis Trustee Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Berkshire, UK Posts: 1,562	IIRC, the SDHC adaptors work with the EX line only because of the adaptions built into these cameras for the Sony PHU-60K disk recording device which is strictly a USB device. If the PHU-60K does NOT work with the JVC's SxS (which I think is the case), then I would also surmise that the JVC will NOT take the SDHC cards as its SxS does not have the USB capability that makes the 'magic' work. __________________ Director/Editor - MDMA Ltd: Write, Shoot, Edit, Publish - mattdavis.pro EX1 x2, C100 --> FCPX & PPro6

May 18th, 2009, 05:48 AM	#7
Gregory Murphy New Boot Join Date: May 2009 Location: Emyvale, Ireland Posts: 11	Jvc ka-mr100g sxs Does this mean that there is no adapter that will work or would a PCIe compact flash adapter work?

May 18th, 2009, 08:46 AM	#8
Matt Davis Trustee Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Berkshire, UK Posts: 1,562	It only means that the current EX1-style SDHC adaptors work via USB. From then on, we get into conjecture. IIRC, it's moot because the new JVCs record QT to SDHC and the SxS is just an add-on. __________________ Director/Editor - MDMA Ltd: Write, Shoot, Edit, Publish - mattdavis.pro EX1 x2, C100 --> FCPX & PPro6

May 12th, 2009, 02:49 PM	#2
Olof Ekbergh Sponsor: Westside AV Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mount Washington Valley, NH, USA Posts: 1,365	I believe the issue is that the SDHC cards work through a USB interface, Sony had to update firmware on the EX1 to be able to use their hard drive and that is what enables the use of SDHC card adapters too. So JVC will probably have to issue a Firmware update as well to use the USB interface.

May 12th, 2009, 05:54 PM	#3
David Heath Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,699	If you want to use SDHC cards with the HM700, can you not just put them straight into the SD slot of the camera itself?

May 14th, 2009, 05:01 AM	#5
Marcello Mazzilli Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: ITALIA Posts: 416	Great idea.. let us know if you find something that works with it M

May 18th, 2009, 12:12 PM	#9
Eric Deyerler Regular Crew Join Date: May 2009 Location: Schwabach (Germany - Bavaria) Posts: 199	Normally comes KA-MR100G SxS with a 8 GB SxS-Card, says the JVC-people to me. Isn`t it?

May 29th, 2009, 11:51 AM	#11
Ron Edwards Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: Fairview Heights, Illinois Posts: 148	SDHC cards in SS Module Since you are looking to use SDHC cards in your SxS module you must not need the module at all. Sell your module and purchase several SDHC cards and HOT SWAP them one at a time on the fly. Less equipment ... the KISS theory.

May 30th, 2009, 09:50 AM	#12
Sean Adair Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 463	Ron, I think the reason he wants to do this is to take advantage of recording to both media systems at once, and keeping both media sets at a reasonable price. Generally, I suspect that this backup approach is not worth the trouble. With quality tested media and proper handling, the SDHC should have an extremely low failure rate - much better than tape for instance. The converter and added operator/handling of this backup is more likely to introduce issues than actually ever save a piece of footage. The biggest advantage would be if 2 people had to walk away from ashoot with clones of the footage. 10 minutes with a laptop would usually cover that better. I'd be curious to know if a way to make it work (SDHC in the SXS box with converters) does come to light. __________________ Sean Adair - NYC - www.adairproductions.com JVC GY-HM-700 with 17x5 lens, MacPro 3.2ghz 8-core, 18gb. (JVC HD200 4 sale soon)

June 13th, 2010, 05:51 AM	#13
Daniel Marr New Boot Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 11	The MEAD-MS01 and MEAD-SD01 Sorry to revive an old thread but I have been wondering about the new adaptors that Sony have released earlier this year. Does anyone know if these adaptors will work with the KA-MR100G? Sony : MEAD-MS01 (MEADMS01) : Consumer Memory Stick Adaptor for SxS Sony : MEAD-SD01 (MEAD-SD01) SDHC Adaptor for SxS

June 14th, 2010, 06:28 PM	#14
Tim Dashwood Wrangler Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 3,637	No adapter will work with the KA-MR100G because the internal connection that made the adapter function in the EX1 (USB) does not exist on the HM700/790. __________________ Tim Dashwood

June 15th, 2010, 03:08 AM	#15
Daniel Marr New Boot Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 11	Ok. Thanks for the clarification Tim!