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Petter Flink January 28th, 2013 12:10 PM

Re: JVC HM600 Sample Footage/Thoughts
 
Was there any clear temperature changes?
Or did the 600 stand in the sun before sun down?

Jody Arnott January 28th, 2013 05:17 PM

Re: JVC HM600 Sample Footage/Thoughts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Warren (Post 1775706)
Did you need to open the aperture as the recording progressed?

Oh, of course. It just occurred to me - I had auto iris on. The aperture would have opened up as the sky got darker, making the DoF shallower.

Tim Gauthier January 28th, 2013 07:33 PM

Re: JVC HM600 Sample Footage/Thoughts
 
I just got my camera as well, I shot some footage in near dark at a conference, I had to gain all the way to -18 to get anything visible, yes it was noisy, but completely useable!

I noticed the same thing about the door on the SD cards, however I havn't felt any creeks in the handle. The screen was solid and could just be friction sounds. The internal mic picks up anything you do on the body, and I expected this so I have an NTG-2 hooked up. I hope to possibly get some good stock b-roll of Germany tomorrow so I will try to post some of that.

I have to play with the detail settings as well as the skin detail options, I don't fully understand them yet.

here is my clip, I dubbed in the audio again, but left some of my shotgun audio back in for ambience.


Jody Arnott January 28th, 2013 10:13 PM

Re: JVC HM600 Sample Footage/Thoughts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Gauthier (Post 1775829)
I just got my camera as well, I shot some footage in near dark at a conference, I had to gain all the way to -18 to get anything visible, yes it was noisy, but completely useable!

I noticed the same thing about the door on the SD cards, however I havn't felt any creeks in the handle. The screen was solid and could just be friction sounds. The internal mic picks up anything you do on the body, and I expected this so I have an NTG-2 hooked up. I hope to possibly get some good stock b-roll of Germany tomorrow so I will try to post some of that.

I have to play with the detail settings as well as the skin detail options, I don't fully understand them yet.

here is my clip, I dubbed in the audio again, but left some of my shotgun audio back in for ambience.

Rachelle's Dance on Vimeo

Hm I'm confused by this. If I use 18dB gain the image is a LOT noisier than yours. So bad that I wouldn't use it. Pretty sure mine is noisier even at 6dB... Could there be an issue with my camera?

Might do some more low light testing tonight.

Alan Fitch January 29th, 2013 07:36 PM

Re: JVC HM600 Sample Footage/Thoughts
 
My understanding is that the noise was addressed by the firmware update released in December. Not having one of these yet, I don't know what version number it is.

Hope this helps.

- Alan

Werner Graf January 30th, 2013 10:59 AM

Re: JVC HM600 Sample Footage/Thoughts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Gauthier (Post 1775829)
I just got my camera as well, I shot some footage in near dark at a conference, I had to gain all the way to -18 to get anything visible, yes it was noisy, but completely useable!

I noticed the same thing about the door on the SD cards, however I havn't felt any creeks in the handle. The screen was solid and could just be friction sounds. The internal mic picks up anything you do on the body, and I expected this so I have an NTG-2 hooked up. I hope to possibly get some good stock b-roll of Germany tomorrow so I will try to post some of that.

I have to play with the detail settings as well as the skin detail options, I don't fully understand them yet.

here is my clip, I dubbed in the audio again, but left some of my shotgun audio back in for ambience.

Rachelle's Dance on Vimeo

Goosepimpels so nice from whom is the music?

Scott Kase January 30th, 2013 01:49 PM

Re: JVC HM600 Sample Footage/Thoughts
 
Tim the footage looks great. We have shot some demo footage with our Camera and our customers who purchased these from us have been very pleased.

Jody Arnott January 30th, 2013 09:43 PM

Re: JVC HM600 Sample Footage/Thoughts
 
Some more footage I put together. Shot entirely on the HM600.

Note that some of the shots are colour graded.


Leon Kolenda January 30th, 2013 10:03 PM

Re: JVC HM600 Sample Footage/Thoughts
 
Jody, can you post your videos of the GY-HM600 to Vimeo? I hate Youtube, their compression is so bad, It makes it hard to evaluate any video. Or if there is a place we could download a short file?

Love the range on that lens!

Jody Arnott January 30th, 2013 10:53 PM

Re: JVC HM600 Sample Footage/Thoughts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon Kolenda (Post 1776246)
Jody, can you post your videos of the GY-HM600 to Vimeo? I hate Youtube, their compression is so bad, It makes it hard to evaluate any video. Or if there is a place we could download a short file?

Love the range on that lens!

Yep not a problem, I'll get a copy up onto Vimeo.

Edit:
Here's a 12mbit .mp4:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/61lxxwxmgg...Main_Final.mp4

Would recommend downloading the file as the player seems to compress the video.

Jody Arnott January 31st, 2013 06:20 PM

Re: JVC HM600 Sample Footage/Thoughts
 
Here's some more low light footage. Definitely better than I first thought, it's quite usable at 0dB. I'll try and get some 6dB tests up too.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5icrlzv36w...20Test%202.mp4

My expectations were obviously too high at first. As I mentioned, this is my first professional video camera aside from the XA10 so I wasn't sure what to expect.

From what I can tell, the JVC tries to maintain as much detail as possible in low light as possible, while the XA10 sacrifices detail to reduce noise and produce a cleaner image. I think that's why I was so confused as to why the HM600 was so noisy.

The first low light tests can be found here: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/jvc-gy-h...0-arrived.html but honestly, I'd ignore them.

Tim Gauthier February 6th, 2013 04:57 PM

Re: JVC HM600 Sample Footage/Thoughts
 
I got out for a day trip to Prague and filmed this. I accidentally turned the LowLUX mode on and so some of the footage is grainy. You can also see how the focus started to search a few times. This was not obvious on the LCD screen, so I just need to be aware of it when using the camera.


Michael Warren February 6th, 2013 07:05 PM

Re: JVC HM600 Sample Footage/Thoughts
 
Thanks Tim. And thanks for making the original 1080p available for download.

Jody Arnott February 6th, 2013 07:37 PM

Re: JVC HM600 Sample Footage/Thoughts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Gauthier (Post 1777660)
I got out for a day trip to Prague and filmed this. I accidentally turned the LowLUX mode on and so some of the footage is grainy. You can also see how the focus started to search a few times. This was not obvious on the LCD screen, so I just need to be aware of it when using the camera.

Prague Day trip on Vimeo

Thanks for the video.

I've had some issues with the focus searching too. I don't trust the auto focus at all.

I was doing some testing the other day, and sometimes even when the camera has good focus, it keeps hunting.

Hopefully this is an issue JVC can look into.

Leon Kolenda February 10th, 2013 11:23 PM

Re: JVC HM600 Sample Footage/Thoughts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Gauthier (Post 1777660)
I got out for a day trip to Prague and filmed this. I accidentally turned the LowLUX mode on and so some of the footage is grainy. You can also see how the focus started to search a few times. This was not obvious on the LCD screen, so I just need to be aware of it when using the camera.

Prague Day trip on Vimeo

Hey TIm, Nice video. Good choice of subject matter. I have watched it a few times the lens looks pretty good.
In a few parts, especially of the cathedral, it looks like there is some wavering of the video, like there was a heat wave in front of the lens. DO you see what I'm seeing? What ere the Gain settings? and all the other also.

Thanks,


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