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John DeLuca September 30th, 2003 12:24 AM

Master quality Mini DVC
 
I came across some panasonic 63 min "Master" quality mini dvc on the B&H web site. My question is what is the difference compaired to the regular mini dvc, and is it a better choice for a wedding.




John DeLuca Akron, Ohio

Ken Tanaka September 30th, 2003 12:54 AM

Panasonic's "MQ' series of tape is their top of the line. You can download a brochure on it from Panasonic's site to see for yourself what Panasonic says about this grade.

We've recently had quite a bit of discussion concerning how it compares to other brands and grades, with no hard conclusions.

In my opinion you should always use the best grade of tape you can afford especially if someone is paying you for your services and materials.

I use PQ and MQ tape interchangeably. If I was under contract for services I would use MQ tape. Will you see a difference in your recording? No. But it would be the professional thing to do, especially if you plan to turn the raw footage tapes over to your client.

John DeLuca September 30th, 2003 10:58 AM

Great info ken. I guess the MQ packaging was what got me. If you dont mind me asking, What brand name do you use/like the most? I guess if the tape is the same, then which one would have the most robust caseing? Thanks again for all the help




John DeLuca Akron, Ohio

Ken Tanaka September 30th, 2003 11:30 AM

Just to be clear, I'm sure there's a difference between Panasonic's MQ and PQ grades of tape. Whether or not that difference is material to you, commensurate to the price difference, is a question only you'll be able to answer.

I use only Panasonic tape. Others, however, will cite Sony and Fuji as good brands, too. In general it's best to stick with a brand. Be sure to run a cleaning tape through the camera if you do decide to switch brands. It's a good housekeeping practice.

Nathan Gifford September 30th, 2003 11:30 AM

Yes, I agree with Ken that there have been no hard conclusions. I too use MQs, though I have rarely had problems with other brands (Sony, Fuji).

I would recommend you do a search on 'tape' or 'MQ'. You should get lots of hits.

David Hurdon October 1st, 2003 04:47 AM

I discovered the Panasonic MQ tapes a few months after buying a VX2000 and use nothing else now. I probably pay too much for them ($CDN45/box of 5) but they just feel right to me.

David Hurdon

Don Bloom October 1st, 2003 10:01 AM

I too have never found the difference between MQ and PQ but I have been using the PQ's 63 minute and 83 miunte for 2 years in 2 different PD150's and an old VX1000 with out any troubles whatsoever.

Different strokes for different folks.

Don

Glenn Chan October 1st, 2003 10:20 AM

Now that the Canadian dollar has risen it should be even cheaper.

EDIT: I don't know what happened but that last sentence was supposed to refer to tapestockonline.com. I think you have to pay customs on it which can make them expensive (sorry I'm not too sure on this). As far as I know items under $20 individually are not charged tax.

If you are in Toronto the cheapest place to buy locally seems to be Tapeworks (search for Tapeworks Toronto in google for their phone #).

David Hurdon October 1st, 2003 05:49 PM

Thank you, Glenn. I'll check it out.

David Hurdon

John DeLuca October 1st, 2003 10:48 PM

Thanks for all the help. Ill have to checkout the link aswell Glenn.



John DeLuca Akron, Ohio

Glenn Chan October 2nd, 2003 05:58 PM

For Canadians:
I think you have to pay customs on it which can make them expensive (sorry I'm not too sure on this). As far as I know items under $20 individually are not charged tax.

If you are in Toronto the cheapest place to buy locally seems to be Tapeworks (search for Tapeworks Toronto in google for their phone #).

RE-EDIT: For Canadians, 99.9% of items made in North America are not subject to customs because of free trade. My school bought 25 mini-DV tapes plus a storage rack and cleaning tape and the duty turned out to be $40ish (didn't do the accounting). I'm not exactly sure what happened there. The tapes were Panasonic tapes (the cheap ones) and are manufactured in Japan.

David Hurdon October 2nd, 2003 07:50 PM

I haven't bought tape online but I have bought CDr/DVD-R media in the US and paid GST only. Is it possible that $40 bucks was tax rather than duty?

David Hurdon

Glenn Chan October 3rd, 2003 08:37 AM

Nope, I didn't buy that much stuff (the order was $100ish) and I think it was duty. There may have been some fee from a company that handles this stuff. I'm not really sure since it wasn't my money.

Perhaps you can call them to see if they know...

Jack Robertson February 24th, 2004 08:10 PM

Mixing PQ and MQ Tapes
 
Hi Ken,

In message two of this post you mention that you use PQ and MQ Panasonic tapes interchangeably... Now from the Panasonic link you've provided, Panasonic states that their MQ tapes use dry lubricant and I assume their PQ series would also use dry lubricant.

Having said that, I came accross the below website that says that both the PQ and MQ use dry lubes, but the website advises to run a tape cleaner through first (before changing from PQ to MQ and vice-versa)... is this something you do as well or is this not necessary? Personally I would think this shouldn't be necessary.

Here is the link:
http://www.hosannaproductions.com/tips/minidv_lubricants.html

Jack

Ken Tanaka February 24th, 2004 09:01 PM

Honestly, Jack, I've never run a cleaner when switching between MQ and PQ grade Panasonic tapes. I've never had a problem with my (former) XL1, my (current) XL1s, my (former) GL1, my (current) GL2, my DVX100 (few hours) or my DVX100A.

Jack Robertson February 24th, 2004 09:49 PM

Thanx for the reply Ken. I thought that would be the case, I mean one usually uses a tape cleaner when there *is* a problem... not when it's not really needed.

I know this wet & dry lubricant is a fairly big issue among different tape brands, but I just wanted to make sure and ask someone who actually uses the PQ and MQ tapes like yourself.

Cheers, Jack

Paul Krakowiak February 25th, 2004 09:13 PM

Hi guys :)

You can also use Panasonic AY-DVM60XJ which is also PRO Tape.

60XJ apparently is replacement for 63PQ *** I could be wrong ***

Ken Tanaka February 25th, 2004 10:41 PM

Here is the list of Panasonic's professional media products. The 60XJ tape is labeled as "professional" but is actually under the consumer products area.

Nevertheless, I'm sure it's just fine to use.

Paul Krakowiak February 26th, 2004 05:06 PM

THANK YOU KEN :):):)

Just wonder…. Why Pana doing that?

If XJ is labeled as “professional” why they list that tape under consumer product area? I would like to see spec. for all of those tapes.

Dave Largent February 28th, 2004 04:43 PM

I only use the MQs and have drop-outs and head clogs.
I keep using them cuz they say they're the best.
Guess things would be worse with other brands.

David Ho March 1st, 2004 12:55 PM

Dave, you keep using yet although it causes the head clogs and problems? Are you saying that it causes more or less than other brands?

Dave Largent March 7th, 2004 02:44 PM

MQs are the only tapes I've used.

David Ho March 8th, 2004 01:15 PM

I also use the DVM63MQs. Call me crazy, but I have been using them only and ONLY right after I got my GL2. I just want the less head ware on my camera! It works like a charm. No problems at all!


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