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Nick Clement May 2nd, 2011 04:14 PM

GoPro diving set up w lights
 
I'm looking to mount my GoPro (w the flat lens fix) onto a lighting set up to take scuba diving with me next month. I'm considering buying two of the Mini Q40 eLED to mount the gopro to. Does anyone have any experience with a set up like this? Is there a better option at a decent price out there? Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Wayne Reimer May 3rd, 2011 08:57 AM

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that looks like it would do the job fine. How are you planning on mounting the lights and the camera together?
Thinking WAAY back to my days of shooting stills U/W, I used a Nikonos system with long articulating arms for lighting ( seems to me they were 20 in. each). It was awkward on the surface, but great U/W. it let you get the lighting above the lens and angled in so that the beam patterns overlapped perfectly at about 3 feet. Probably overkill for the gopro.
I'm wondering if you couldn't cobble together a small PVC rig for it??

Dan Asseff May 3rd, 2011 07:50 PM

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Nick,

You could try making holders out of loc-line. I made flag out of it. I did get it in black from one of my suppliers. modularhose.com - Loc-Line 1/2" ID System . If you have a aquarium store by you, they can get it for you.http://aquariumcenter.net/en/plumbin...g-c-13_14.html

Dan

Curt Talbot May 4th, 2011 07:49 AM

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Nick, in addition to Dan and Wayne's ideas, you might want to think about modifying a Gorillapod to mount your lights and the camera. There are Gorillapod knockoffs available for very little money that just might work.

Be sure to post your results as we are all interested!

Curt

Ray Bell May 4th, 2011 08:28 AM

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Most likely those lights are too small and will not put out the correct amount of light...

Here is a site that has some equipment for underwater shooting....

Ultralight Control Systems

Nick Clement May 23rd, 2011 03:40 PM

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Thanks for all the great responses and suggestions, I really appreciate it.

Ray, I was afraid it wasn't going to be enough light. Maybe four instead of two Q40's would be enough?

Curt, I really like the Gorilla pod idea, I own one already so I'm going to look into these adapters to attach lights to it ... have you done a rig like this before? If so please tell me about it ... how you attached the lights etc

Dan, thanks for forwarding the links ... maybe with a combo of the gorilla pod, 4 Q40's a couple adapters from Ultralight Control Systems and/or the links you sent I might be in business ...

Wayne, I was going to try to connect the two Q40's with a something similar to the image below .... Its the set up we use with our Splash Cam: Seatrex High Definition Point of View Camera (at my day job) we've used this set up at 100ft while ice fishing and the 2 q40's seemed to give off enough light if the subject was close enough to the camera. I like your idea on the 20in arms, that seems like it would allow the lights to be farther spread out ... maybe I can accomplish this with Curt's Gorilla pod idea .... but I'm also interested in hearing about your PVC idea?

Curt Talbot May 23rd, 2011 06:24 PM

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Sorry Nick, I haven't actually built a set. Attaching the lights might be a challenge. I am sure someone has some ideas!

Ben Fullerton May 26th, 2011 11:05 AM

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Don't know if you've tried your rig yet, but my biggest concern would be that those light would put out a wide enough beam to cover the whole gopro field of view. Look like you might end up with light in the middle, and dark in the corners.

Ron Chau May 27th, 2011 02:55 PM

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Exactly as Ben says.

The GoPro has a very wide angle coverage. If you want the lights to illuminate the full frame of the GoPro, you will need W/A beam lights, plus they will need to be very powerful. For a given power level of light: the more the beam is spread out, the less the beam will penetrate the water. For example, a 50 watt light with a 15 degree beam angle might illuminate a fish 15 feet away at night, but a 50 watt light with a 90 degree angle might only go to 5 feet.

If you are shooting daytime, you will need even more powerful lights because it needs to overpower the sunlight.

If you are shooting during the day, I recommend a pink filter.

Ann Bens May 29th, 2011 07:48 AM

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Hi, which pink filter would that be?

Ron Chau May 29th, 2011 12:42 PM

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Lee or Roscoe gel filter. They are very inexpensive. You can get a whole 20 x 20 inch sheet for $7. Cut out a small piece the size of a penny and drop it inside the GoPro housing.



Ivan Jasper May 29th, 2011 09:26 PM

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Ron: How long ago was that? Was it the Caribbean? Seahorses are getting a lot harder to find with the insurgent lionfish cleaning them out.

Ron Chau May 29th, 2011 10:30 PM

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Bonaire about a month ago. To be honest, I found the diving conditions disappointing. Reef and coral did not look healthy.

Ann Bens May 30th, 2011 04:58 PM

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Thanks, but do you have a color number for the pink?

Ron Chau May 30th, 2011 08:36 PM

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I think it was 790.

I believe both Lee and Roscoe give away or sell swatchbooks. Since the GoPro is so small, the swatchbook is a great way to experiment with filter colors to match your dive conditions.

Some stores give them away with purchases, other stores will sell them to you. Think I saw them going for $2-$4.

Nick Clement May 31st, 2011 11:08 AM

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Thanks for the info Ron ... I am considering purchasing the ultra light TR-GP with TR-DHB handle Ultralight Control Systems - GoPro Accessories and the Aqua Sun eLed Rechargable: The AquaSun eLED Dive Light Underwater Kinetics

This Aqua sun seems like it would put out plenty of light and it says it is a wide beam but doesn't give specifics on how wide.

I will be shooting during the day but at depths up to 120 feet ... will I still need a pink filter with this set up?

Ann Bens May 31st, 2011 12:55 PM

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Thanks for the info.

Ron Chau May 31st, 2011 06:32 PM

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The GoPro needs light. When things get a little dark, your footage will have a lot of video noise. Try shooting indoors and you will see what I mean.

120 feet is pretty deep. At that depth I would skip the filter and bring the biggest most powerful lights you have. Where are you diving ? Is the water clear ?

Nick Clement June 2nd, 2011 11:41 PM

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Headed to the Cayman Islands ... the water should be clear. I know what you mean about the gopro's noise problem in low light situations ... So the filter isn't necessary if I have enough light correct? I'm just worried about a drastic white balance shift in the middle of a sweet shot of tarpon or something : )

Ann Bens June 3rd, 2011 07:06 AM

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Filmed while snorkeling:
YouTube - #x202a;Bonaire - watercolors‬‏

Ron Chau June 3rd, 2011 04:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Clement (Post 1655112)
Headed to the Cayman Islands ... the water should be clear. I know what you mean about the gopro's noise problem in low light situations ... So the filter isn't necessary if I have enough light correct? I'm just worried about a drastic white balance shift in the middle of a sweet shot of tarpon or something : )

The filter helps with color at the expense of cutting out light. As you go deeper, the need for light can override the need for color. The exact depth where this takes place varies depending on water clarity, time of day and sunlight.

Typically filters for video are used for depths between 12 feet and 80 feet. I not aware of many recreational dives in the Caymans deeper than 80-90 ft. In my humble opinion, use the filter the whole time in Cayman Islands, unless you are doing a night dive or diving over 100 feet.


Bonaire, Hilma Hooker. Around 75-80 ft, low viz maybe 35-45 ft. Late afternoon. Using the filter. On this dive, the need for the filter out weighs the need for light.

Prech Marton September 24th, 2012 02:54 PM

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Hello

i also search an affordable LED light for my underwater video with the gopro (medium FOV).
I will dive no more than 10m.
Any suggestion for the lamp? thx


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