NewBlue Stabilizer question

Edward Troxel · September 5th, 2010, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Phung

Today I download a trial version Vegas 10 platinum, just want to test out their bundled NewBlue stablized feature is awsome and easy to use.

Just to clarify things... the stabilizer bundled in Vegas Movie Studio is NOT the NewBlue stabilizer. It is based off of Mercalli.

Mike Kujbida · September 5th, 2010, 07:03 AM

If anyone is interested, Mercalli recently released version 2 of their stabilizer ($200) and reports so far are very good.

Mercalli V2

Roy Alexander · September 5th, 2010, 07:36 AM

Take note Mecalli V2 does not work with any VMS versions. It only works with Vegas Pro.

Harry Simpson · September 5th, 2010, 10:02 AM

Welp the Vegas Movie Studio Mercalli stabilizer worked great cept that it cropped my video down in size so about 20% of the outer frame was lost. I had to remove it. The NewBlue stabilizer seems to distort too much too. Course this probably is my inexperience with the features too....but I've only a limited amount of time to to get workable workflows down...

Bruce Phung · September 5th, 2010, 11:22 AM

My test footage has lower 3rd and after destablized, the lower 3rd gone. So it is best not to have any text on it if you gonna destablized it. Add any texts afterward.

Roy Alexander · September 6th, 2010, 02:15 AM

If it's any help to the contributers of this thread who have had bother with the stabilizer programme of VMS10 Platinum, they may be interested in my findings. I too found that the stabilized clip was very much magnified and couldn,t be used. I had used the selection of Intense analyze and thinking that this was the reason I tried again and selected Hand Held Camera analyze but it made no difference to the amount of magnification. I then noticed that before the selection began a notice asked me if I wanted to create a subclip. I accepted the offer and not only was the time taken to stabilize drastically reduced, the resultant magnification was unnoticable on the treated clip, and while the big shake wasn't completely gone, the treated clip was highly acceptable with almost 100% shake free.

Harry Simpson · September 6th, 2010, 09:18 AM

Roy,

<<create a subclip>>

Saw that but had no idea what that meant - did it create a new file? I've read and printed out the help files and they are just not very in depth.

Roy Alexander · September 6th, 2010, 10:26 AM

Harry. The procedure I used was to place the clip to be stabilized on the timeline and then copy and paste it onto another track. Click onto the copy clip and select yes to making a sub clip, I chose the general analyze. When finished the stabilized subclip is automatically placed onto the project panel. From there you can drag in onto the timeline. You can of course just select the original clip without making a copy. I make a copy so that I can drag the stabilized copy onto the timeline next to the original and this way I can compare the two clips. You can then save the stabilized clip onto the hard drive and insert into your video when ready by cutting out the original clip and replacing it with the stabilized one. If you stabilize the original clip then no new clip is placed on the project panel but the original shot itself is stabilized. If you are not happy with the result of the stabilized original clip you can de-stablize it. I hope this may be of some help to you.

Harry Simpson · September 7th, 2010, 11:31 AM

Thanks Roy,

I'll have to try that. So the subclip resulted in no magnification/cropping?

Roy Alexander · September 7th, 2010, 01:08 PM

Harry. There must of been some cropping because that's the way the stabilizer works, but it's not enough to be noticable. Make sure you do not select intense stabilization as that makes heavy magnification.

September 5th, 2010, 10:02 AM	#19
Harry Simpson Major Player Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Nashville, TN. Posts: 581	Welp the Vegas Movie Studio Mercalli stabilizer worked great cept that it cropped my video down in size so about 20% of the outer frame was lost. I had to remove it. The NewBlue stabilizer seems to distort too much too. Course this probably is my inexperience with the features too....but I've only a limited amount of time to to get workable workflows down... __________________ Nashville TN using Canon 5D MK3, Canon 550D, RODE SVM mic, 70-200 f2.8L II IS, 24-105 f4L IS, 50 and 85 f/1.8, Vegas Pro 11, Zoom H4n, Blackbird, Lilliput Monitor, Lightroom

September 6th, 2010, 09:18 AM	#22
Harry Simpson Major Player Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Nashville, TN. Posts: 581	Roy, <<create a subclip>> Saw that but had no idea what that meant - did it create a new file? I've read and printed out the help files and they are just not very in depth. __________________ Nashville TN using Canon 5D MK3, Canon 550D, RODE SVM mic, 70-200 f2.8L II IS, 24-105 f4L IS, 50 and 85 f/1.8, Vegas Pro 11, Zoom H4n, Blackbird, Lilliput Monitor, Lightroom

September 7th, 2010, 11:31 AM	#24
Harry Simpson Major Player Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Nashville, TN. Posts: 581	Thanks Roy, I'll have to try that. So the subclip resulted in no magnification/cropping? __________________ Nashville TN using Canon 5D MK3, Canon 550D, RODE SVM mic, 70-200 f2.8L II IS, 24-105 f4L IS, 50 and 85 f/1.8, Vegas Pro 11, Zoom H4n, Blackbird, Lilliput Monitor, Lightroom

September 5th, 2010, 07:03 AM	#17
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	If anyone is interested, Mercalli recently released version 2 of their stabilizer ($200) and reports so far are very good. Mercalli V2

September 5th, 2010, 07:36 AM	#18
Roy Alexander Major Player Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 354	Take note Mecalli V2 does not work with any VMS versions. It only works with Vegas Pro.

September 5th, 2010, 11:22 AM	#20
Bruce Phung Major Player Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Rochester,NY USA Posts: 285	My test footage has lower 3rd and after destablized, the lower 3rd gone. So it is best not to have any text on it if you gonna destablized it. Add any texts afterward.

September 6th, 2010, 02:15 AM	#21
Roy Alexander Major Player Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 354	If it's any help to the contributers of this thread who have had bother with the stabilizer programme of VMS10 Platinum, they may be interested in my findings. I too found that the stabilized clip was very much magnified and couldn,t be used. I had used the selection of Intense analyze and thinking that this was the reason I tried again and selected Hand Held Camera analyze but it made no difference to the amount of magnification. I then noticed that before the selection began a notice asked me if I wanted to create a subclip. I accepted the offer and not only was the time taken to stabilize drastically reduced, the resultant magnification was unnoticable on the treated clip, and while the big shake wasn't completely gone, the treated clip was highly acceptable with almost 100% shake free.

September 6th, 2010, 10:26 AM	#23
Roy Alexander Major Player Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 354	Harry. The procedure I used was to place the clip to be stabilized on the timeline and then copy and paste it onto another track. Click onto the copy clip and select yes to making a sub clip, I chose the general analyze. When finished the stabilized subclip is automatically placed onto the project panel. From there you can drag in onto the timeline. You can of course just select the original clip without making a copy. I make a copy so that I can drag the stabilized copy onto the timeline next to the original and this way I can compare the two clips. You can then save the stabilized clip onto the hard drive and insert into your video when ready by cutting out the original clip and replacing it with the stabilized one. If you stabilize the original clip then no new clip is placed on the project panel but the original shot itself is stabilized. If you are not happy with the result of the stabilized original clip you can de-stablize it. I hope this may be of some help to you.

September 7th, 2010, 01:08 PM	#25
Roy Alexander Major Player Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 354	Harry. There must of been some cropping because that's the way the stabilizer works, but it's not enough to be noticable. Make sure you do not select intense stabilization as that makes heavy magnification.