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George Palmier November 3rd, 2007 02:54 PM

Firewire problem with Sony
 
Today I wanted to capture some footage using a sony camera. I connected the camera via firewire but my pc didn't recognize the camera. Then I connected another camera, a Samsung, and it was recognized immediately with the same firewire cable. I also connected a JVC camera and no problem at all. My problem is only with the Sony. This camera is not mine and it works fine on its owner's pc. Any idea of what could be the problem?

Carl Middleton November 3rd, 2007 05:19 PM

Are you capturing in SD or HD? Make sure the camera and computer have the same settings, that's when I see that problem most often. :) Barring that, try turning off the computer and camera, turn on camera, plugged in, start windows/your programs?

Carl

George Palmier November 4th, 2007 02:57 AM

I am using a small consumer sony camera so its SD. It seems to me that there should be some kind of driver for sony. But I never heard of one so thats why I'm lost!!

John Miller November 4th, 2007 05:49 AM

What model Sony is it?

I hate to suggest it but it could very well be the FireWire port on the Sony. There certainly shouldn't be any need for a special driver unless it's one of those odd-ball USB camcorders. All my DV equipment is Sony and everything works just by plugging it in.

Have you double checked it on your friend's PC since having the problem with yours?

If you have a 4-pin to 4-pin FireWire cable, try connecting the Sony and the Samsung. Put both in VTR mode. Set one for DV-IN and the other for DV-OUT (if required). Play a tape in the one set for output. You should see the video on the other camcorder's display. If it doesn't work, try it in reverse.

If you can't get one camcorder to see the other's FireWire output, then it does point to the Sony's port :(

(If you don't have a 4-pin to 4-pin cable, you can use two 4-pin to 6-pin cables both plugged into your PC's FireWire interface. As long as the PC's power is on, the FireWire wire interface acts like a 3 port hub (until some software comes along to use it for capture etc).

George Palmier November 4th, 2007 12:50 PM

The model is DCR-TRV33E. This is a PAL camera, if it makes any difference. As you said it could be a problem with a burnt firewire on the camera but I cannot test that right now since I dont have 4pin to 4pin cable. One thing that I didn't say before is that at one point I disabled the windows firewall and the name of the camera appeared on the bottom right hand corner of my monitor. I thought all problems were solved but it dissapeared very soon and the camera wasn't recognized any more!! I find this very strange.

Ervin Farkas November 5th, 2007 01:38 PM

Hey George, try this: power down everything. Connect camera to PC. Turn on PC first, and only when it's fully up and running, turn on the Sony.

George Palmier November 5th, 2007 01:52 PM

Many thanks to everyone for your replies to my problem but after trying all that was suggested and more, I am still in the same situation!!

Ervin Farkas November 5th, 2007 01:56 PM

Go to My Computer - is the camera listed?

George Palmier November 6th, 2007 11:30 AM

No it does not show in my computer. It is as if I didn't connect it!!

Glenn Davidson November 6th, 2007 11:51 AM

Does it still work on the owners computer?

George Palmier November 6th, 2007 12:00 PM

I cannot try that now cause my friend doesn't live close to my place. That would rule out any trouble with the cam but unfortunately I can't try it for now. And what if it did work on his pc?!?!?

Ervin Farkas November 6th, 2007 01:33 PM

Check this out: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/885222

Mike McCarthy November 6th, 2007 02:16 PM

Any reason not to use the Samsung or JVC camera to capture the footage?

George Palmier November 6th, 2007 02:53 PM

Both samsung and jvc are having other trouble!!!!! Thats why I borrowed this Sony cam

John Portharcourt January 14th, 2008 12:15 PM

The Sony cam firewire port?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Miller (Post 769895)
What model Sony is it?

I hate to suggest it but it could very well be the FireWire port on the Sony. ..... All my DV equipment is Sony and everything works just by plugging it in...

Hi George, I know how frustrating it feels for your post not to have a definite solution at the end of the day. But my question is if you connect the cam to PC using firewire, does “DV in” show on the cam LCD?

Sometimes ago, I encountered exact problem you are sharing: PC not recognizing d camcoder. As a matter of fact, mine was with Sony TRV480. Everything was working perfectly at the initial time: both firewire & USB connections to PC, until when the PC cannot recognize the cam again using firewire. But if connected thru USB, it comes up naturally. Nothing changed on the PC btw the time I started to use the cam & the time the problem occurred.

Having tried all means: re-formating the PC; re-installing the firewire card; re-purchased a new firewire cable and card, using other PC, etc. the problem was eventually traced to the firewire port on the camcorder having partial contact. It accidentally came up once on the PC when I was trying to touch up the firewire port on the cam, but thereafter, it never came up again: despite the inscription of “DV in” showing on the cam LCD. I don’t want to rush into repairs because the cam is just new, and every effort to contact SONY via live chat (www.sony.net/service) has proved abortive.

What am I saying in essence, the reply by John Miller quoted above MAY be totally correct.

I actually abandoned the cam passthru for now since other functions on it are working perfectly. To fill that role, I’m just bought an independent interface, Datavideo DAC200: this gives me more than what my cam can do.

You can also consider this option.

Rgds – John portharcourt

Themis Gyparis January 15th, 2008 02:26 AM

Hi George

I own a Sony DCR-TRV 22E that I sometimes use to capture footage with no problem. I'l have to agree that it is probably a malfunction of the camcorder's firewire port. Also guessing it is a cable-port bad contact or even a burned port on the Sony. In many cases manufacturers suggest powering off the camcorder before plugging the cable in and out to the firewire card.

Brian Standing January 15th, 2008 09:00 AM

One other thing to try before sending in the Sony for servicing. In Device Manager, make sure the device driver for the firewire card is "OHCI IEEE 1394 Controller," NOT "[Brand Name] OHCI-Compliant IEEE 1394 Controller."

If not, update the driver in Device Manager and choose the generic OHCI driver.

Solved a host of problems for me.

Rohan Achi February 22nd, 2008 07:47 AM

Hey palmier, did u get it solvd? I haf the exact same prob n i tried everythin:

1. changed cables.
2. diffrnt computers.
3. switchin on n off, first wit cam on then pc THEN first pc on n then cam.
4. drivers installs perfectly, USB workin.

From various forums, ive learnt tht mayb its a trouble due to XP pro's SP2. they say i ve to get sme sp2 files replaced by sp1s. They even said Microsoft doesnt claim its OS is built for an i.Link connection. Well, i m just takin the cam to a service center, will let u guys know wot the prob was. Pray tht it works for me. Very hardly i ve able to buy this cam n now i cant use wot i ve just shot! PITY ME!

George Palmier February 22nd, 2008 09:12 AM

Yes I had solved the problem. I changed the firewire card. I tried this since it costs very little and to my surprise everything is now fine! Hope you all manage to solve your problems.

Rohan Achi February 25th, 2008 03:40 AM

Ok. Cool for u. I cant changed the card, its a laptop. I'll try every soln. Let u guys kno when it'll work, Chow, CheErS!!!

Paul Kellett February 25th, 2008 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rohan Achi (Post 832423)
Ok. Cool for u. I cant changed the card, its a laptop. I'll try every soln. Let u guys kno when it'll work, Chow, CheErS!!!

Does your laptop have a pcmcia slot,or express card slot,you can buy cards that slip into these slots with all sorts of adaptors/connections,i seen cards with 2 firewire ports.This would be your easiest solution,the card could also go in another laptop which you might buy in the future.

Type pcmcia to firewire in your searchbar.

Paul.

Rohan Achi February 29th, 2008 09:37 AM

Kool Soln.. Thnx Paul i'll try it too n let yall no. Haf fun man. CHOW!


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