What software to edit with? at DVinfo.net

David Griffey · January 1st, 2005, 10:40 PM

I am currently using pinnacle v9.3 to edit home movies. It is not that good. It seems you have to pay for every little thing. I am currently thinking about making a real movie. I am going to buy a Canon XL2 camera to shoot with, but what software do I need to edit like a pro. I really can't make decision after reading everyones post. I don't know who is pro and who is not. I do not want to buy something that will not do the job and I have to buy an add on everytime I come up with something new. Someone please help.

Brandon Greenlee · January 1st, 2005, 11:03 PM

Adobe Premiere Pro

Sony Vegas

Avid Xpress

Will all serve you well for doing more professional videos. This is assuming your planning on sticked with the pc.

Chris Hurd · January 2nd, 2005, 12:20 AM

Consider also the Canopus product line.

Ed Smith · January 2nd, 2005, 06:48 AM

David,

You can get demos of all the NLE's Brandon has mentioned. I would down load each one, and have a play with them (You normally get 30 days to try them out). Then if you find one you like, find a reputable dealer who is willing to give you a demonstration with it. If you like it, then buy it.

Adobe Premiere Pro:

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloa...atform=Windows

Sony Vegas:

http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.co...p2.asp?DID=501

Avid free DV:

http://www.avid.com/freedv/index.asp?dm=whatsNew
Note: this does not have all the features enabled that the full product has, but it'll give you some idea of what Avid is like.

Canopus Edius:

http://register.canopus.com/US/Suppo...asp&Country=US
Note: You will need to register in order to receive a free trial download of Edius.

Dan Euritt · January 2nd, 2005, 03:37 PM

you should also take a look at pinnacle liquid edition, but watch out for bugs.

both pinnacle and avid have free movies online that demonstrate how their software works... that will help you a bunch, when it comes to getting the most out of your limited evaluation time with the software.

AJ Silverman · January 8th, 2005, 10:38 AM

I wouldnt suggest having all the demos installed simultaneously. I gave the Sony Vegas demo a whirl...and installed it along side Premiere Pro 1.5. Sony worked fine...but Premiere acted really screwey after Vegas was installed. As it was my main NLE...Vegas had to go...and it still took an uninstall/re-install to get it to work correcly again.
Here are some of my experiences.

Premiere...in all incarnations since 4.2- I love this app...you can very easily an intuitively import clips, trim them, aply fx or transitions, and render any way you like.

Vegas...been using since 2.0(audio only).- This app is nice also...I did a few tracks on on older version, so I had a little experience with the interface...was not able to immediately edit video...I sow some cool stuff...but it seemed rather clucnky.

Avid.....have used some of the Xpress versions- This app is not for the beginner. Very powerful tools....but tools are only as good as the wielder. The art comes from within. Don't let the Avid snobs talk you into buying an overpriced system, becuase its what "all the real pros use".

Edius-have only observed others edit with this...and it was a demo to show me how bad it was.

Liquid Edition...currently planning to migrate here...Have only seen demos of software and read reviews. Currently have a DVD trial copy on order. Why I am looking towards this proggie. Features and integration. Again tools are only as good as the wielder, but there are some very interesting features. I personally like the multi-cam feature...allowing you to run up to 4 streams of video, then mix them similiar to a live mixer. This in itself is a humongous time saver...if you are editing live performances lets say...or multiple angles of a one time only shot. DVD authoring is embedded in the timeline, and as far as color correction...the demo I watched had a guy pour water out of a decanter and it flowed into his glass as red wine...all with just color correction...that sold me!

Good luck.

January 1st, 2005, 10:40 PM	#1
David Griffey New Boot Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: sparta , ky Posts: 12	What software to edit with? I am currently using pinnacle v9.3 to edit home movies. It is not that good. It seems you have to pay for every little thing. I am currently thinking about making a real movie. I am going to buy a Canon XL2 camera to shoot with, but what software do I need to edit like a pro. I really can't make decision after reading everyones post. I don't know who is pro and who is not. I do not want to buy something that will not do the job and I have to buy an add on everytime I come up with something new. Someone please help.

January 1st, 2005, 11:03 PM	#2
Brandon Greenlee Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: North Alabama Posts: 242	Adobe Premiere Pro Sony Vegas Avid Xpress Will all serve you well for doing more professional videos. This is assuming your planning on sticked with the pc. __________________ Brandon Greenlee

January 2nd, 2005, 12:20 AM	#3
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Consider also the Canopus product line. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 2nd, 2005, 06:48 AM	#4
Ed Smith Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 1,545	David, You can get demos of all the NLE's Brandon has mentioned. I would down load each one, and have a play with them (You normally get 30 days to try them out). Then if you find one you like, find a reputable dealer who is willing to give you a demonstration with it. If you like it, then buy it. Adobe Premiere Pro: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloa...atform=Windows Sony Vegas: http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.co...p2.asp?DID=501 Avid free DV: http://www.avid.com/freedv/index.asp?dm=whatsNew Note: this does not have all the features enabled that the full product has, but it'll give you some idea of what Avid is like. Canopus Edius: http://register.canopus.com/US/Suppo...asp&Country=US Note: You will need to register in order to receive a free trial download of Edius. __________________ Ed Smith Hampshire, UK Good things come to those who wait My Skiing web www.Frostytour.co.uk For quick answers Search dvinfo.net \| The best in the business: dvinfo.net Sponsors

January 2nd, 2005, 03:37 PM	#5
Dan Euritt Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Carlsbad CA Posts: 1,132	you should also take a look at pinnacle liquid edition, but watch out for bugs. both pinnacle and avid have free movies online that demonstrate how their software works... that will help you a bunch, when it comes to getting the most out of your limited evaluation time with the software.

January 8th, 2005, 10:38 AM	#6
AJ Silverman Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 28	I wouldnt suggest having all the demos installed simultaneously. I gave the Sony Vegas demo a whirl...and installed it along side Premiere Pro 1.5. Sony worked fine...but Premiere acted really screwey after Vegas was installed. As it was my main NLE...Vegas had to go...and it still took an uninstall/re-install to get it to work correcly again. Here are some of my experiences. Premiere...in all incarnations since 4.2- I love this app...you can very easily an intuitively import clips, trim them, aply fx or transitions, and render any way you like. Vegas...been using since 2.0(audio only).- This app is nice also...I did a few tracks on on older version, so I had a little experience with the interface...was not able to immediately edit video...I sow some cool stuff...but it seemed rather clucnky. Avid.....have used some of the Xpress versions- This app is not for the beginner. Very powerful tools....but tools are only as good as the wielder. The art comes from within. Don't let the Avid snobs talk you into buying an overpriced system, becuase its what "all the real pros use". Edius-have only observed others edit with this...and it was a demo to show me how bad it was. Liquid Edition...currently planning to migrate here...Have only seen demos of software and read reviews. Currently have a DVD trial copy on order. Why I am looking towards this proggie. Features and integration. Again tools are only as good as the wielder, but there are some very interesting features. I personally like the multi-cam feature...allowing you to run up to 4 streams of video, then mix them similiar to a live mixer. This in itself is a humongous time saver...if you are editing live performances lets say...or multiple angles of a one time only shot. DVD authoring is embedded in the timeline, and as far as color correction...the demo I watched had a guy pour water out of a decanter and it flowed into his glass as red wine...all with just color correction...that sold me! Good luck.