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Ammar Ijaz · January 31st, 2013, 08:18 PM

Do you know of an NLE that has good scripting built-in? Avisynth is a script-only, no-gui solution but I'd ideally prefer something that can switch between gui and scripting and is a little better developed than avisynth is, and can't sync in with Premiere for some plugins only available there.

As a programmer, video editing in premiere is frustratingly slow where basic concepts like looping (e.g. apply this intro sequence to each of these sequences) would make things so much faster and easier.

So, looking at other options. Does Avid have somin like that? Are there more pro NLEs have those? I heard of node-based editors...

Thanks in advance!

In the meanwhile I'm resorting to using AutoHotKey to simulate various keyboard shortcuts to achieve my ends. E.g. converting all named markers to unnumbered markers so I can batch automate to sequence a bunch of slides.

Seth Bloombaum · January 31st, 2013, 10:21 PM

So far as I know, Vegas Pro has the most extensive scripting support. Having said that, it doesn't have anything like a command line interface - you write a script, you run it in the GUI.

Good support from Sony, including a forum at sonycreativesoftware.com that is dedicated to scripting.

Peter Manojlovic · January 31st, 2013, 11:23 PM

There are many GUI interfaces that accept AviSynth, so you can view, and change on the fly...
AVIDemux is one that comes to mind...

Edit:
Sorry, i didn't realize you're looking to do scripting WITHIN an advanced NLE for preferences..

Sareesh Sudhakaran · February 4th, 2013, 04:23 AM

I'm not completely sure about this, but Blender has NLE functionality, and it can be integrated with Python. Possibility?

Ammar Ijaz · February 4th, 2013, 05:11 PM

Thanks!

Seth Bloombaum, I'll look into Vegas more deeply for its scripting support.

Peter Manojlovic, I'll look more deeply into AviSynth. there's an outdated plugin for Premiere that doesn't seem to work with CS6. It might be useful to find an avisynth-to-xml parser to do a quick rough cut that outputs xmls that can be imported easily. I'll be looking into creating that cause it would be relatively simple to write for a basic implementation. Too bad AviSynth isn't as actively developed anymore...

Or just an XML editor of some kind. Perhaps, a plugin that does little more than export an XML, allow you to make changes within a Premiere panel and imports it back in. Sometimes just being able to copy-paste large chunks of xml is what I need to accomplish what I want.

Sareesh Sudhakaran, I'll look into Blender's video editing capabilities though I found Blender frustratingly difficult to understand where the brief time I looked at Cinema4D got me making changes pretty quickly...

Part of the reason I would like to be integrated with Premiere is cause of extensive plugin support. If there's an alternative with as many plugins available, please lemme know.

Brian Drysdale · February 12th, 2013, 06:21 PM

I'm not sure if this would be of interest. VirtualDub as an assistant application [Updated]

A number of Lightworks users are coming up with various bits of software that can be used with this NLE.

BTW Lightworks isn't currently open source.

January 31st, 2013, 08:18 PM	#1
Ammar Ijaz New Boot Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 23	NLE for Programmers? Do you know of an NLE that has good scripting built-in? Avisynth is a script-only, no-gui solution but I'd ideally prefer something that can switch between gui and scripting and is a little better developed than avisynth is, and can't sync in with Premiere for some plugins only available there. As a programmer, video editing in premiere is frustratingly slow where basic concepts like looping (e.g. apply this intro sequence to each of these sequences) would make things so much faster and easier. So, looking at other options. Does Avid have somin like that? Are there more pro NLEs have those? I heard of node-based editors... Thanks in advance! In the meanwhile I'm resorting to using AutoHotKey to simulate various keyboard shortcuts to achieve my ends. E.g. converting all named markers to unnumbered markers so I can batch automate to sequence a bunch of slides.

January 31st, 2013, 10:21 PM	#2
Seth Bloombaum Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,420	Re: NLE for Programmers? So far as I know, Vegas Pro has the most extensive scripting support. Having said that, it doesn't have anything like a command line interface - you write a script, you run it in the GUI. Good support from Sony, including a forum at sonycreativesoftware.com that is dedicated to scripting. __________________ 30 years of pro media production. Vegas user since 1.0. Webcaster since 1997. Freelancer since 2000. College instructor since 2001.

January 31st, 2013, 11:23 PM	#3
Peter Manojlovic Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Hamilton Ontario Posts: 769	Re: NLE for Programmers? There are many GUI interfaces that accept AviSynth, so you can view, and change on the fly... AVIDemux is one that comes to mind... Edit: Sorry, i didn't realize you're looking to do scripting WITHIN an advanced NLE for preferences..

February 4th, 2013, 04:23 AM	#4
Sareesh Sudhakaran Trustee Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 1,385	Re: NLE for Programmers? I'm not completely sure about this, but Blender has NLE functionality, and it can be integrated with Python. Possibility? __________________ Get the Free Comprehensive Guide to Rigging ANY Camera - one guide to rig them all - DSLRs to the Arri Alexa.

February 4th, 2013, 05:11 PM	#5
Ammar Ijaz New Boot Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 23	Re: NLE for Programmers? Thanks! Seth Bloombaum, I'll look into Vegas more deeply for its scripting support. Peter Manojlovic, I'll look more deeply into AviSynth. there's an outdated plugin for Premiere that doesn't seem to work with CS6. It might be useful to find an avisynth-to-xml parser to do a quick rough cut that outputs xmls that can be imported easily. I'll be looking into creating that cause it would be relatively simple to write for a basic implementation. Too bad AviSynth isn't as actively developed anymore... Or just an XML editor of some kind. Perhaps, a plugin that does little more than export an XML, allow you to make changes within a Premiere panel and imports it back in. Sometimes just being able to copy-paste large chunks of xml is what I need to accomplish what I want. Sareesh Sudhakaran, I'll look into Blender's video editing capabilities though I found Blender frustratingly difficult to understand where the brief time I looked at Cinema4D got me making changes pretty quickly... Part of the reason I would like to be integrated with Premiere is cause of extensive plugin support. If there's an alternative with as many plugins available, please lemme know.

February 12th, 2013, 06:21 PM	#6
Brian Drysdale Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belfast, UK Posts: 6,143	Re: NLE for Programmers? I'm not sure if this would be of interest. VirtualDub as an assistant application [Updated] A number of Lightworks users are coming up with various bits of software that can be used with this NLE. BTW Lightworks isn't currently open source.