Simple Benchmark Premiere v6.5 vs Vegas 4.0B at DVinfo.net

Lars Siden · May 1st, 2003, 01:21 PM

Hi,

After reading the posts about the lack of speed in Vegas - I was curious to do a simple test myself.

I made a 1 min 5 sec long composition in both vegas and premiere. Both projects showing exactly the same, namely

1. Main video stream
2. A Photoshop PSD with alpha channel ( duration 1 min )
3. Additive dissolve to video clip nr 2

Rendering time:

Premiere 1.30
Vegas 1.42

Comments:

In my opinion Vegas does a better job with the alpha matte on the PSD. Vegas is also much faster to work with than premiere - What I miss in Vegas is full control - ie. properties->Duration isn't there and many times when Premiere lets you enter an exact number, you have to use the mouse in Vegas.

Final word:

Today Vegas is the winnner of user-friendliness and Premiere the speed winner. With Premiere 7 around the corner, sonic foundry better sharpen their knifes because I think Premiere will be a killer app!

Best regards,

Lazze Z

Sweden

Edward Troxel · May 1st, 2003, 02:36 PM

Explain the "Properties - Duration" and how it is used (I don't use Premiere). It *may* be there in some fashion. I can think of at least one method (besides scripting) that could, possibly, provide that functionality if it means what it sounds like it means.

The possibility:

1. Add the clip/picture to the timeline.
2. Double-click the clip (to select it)

At this point, the timecodes immediatly below the timeline will show Selection Start, Selection End, Selection Length.

3. Double-click the Selection Length
4. Type in the desired time
5. Resize the clip to the new selection boundry

Does this do the same thing????

Rob Lohman · May 2nd, 2003, 03:40 AM

Duration allows you to change the length of a clip whether it is
a movie (frame rate changes) or a still picture (number of frames
the still is being displayed changes)....

Edward Troxel · May 2nd, 2003, 07:48 AM

Does my described technique do the same thing?

(note: for video, you could do it with or without framerate changing)

Lars Siden · May 2nd, 2003, 07:53 AM

It is as Rob says - fast way to set the duration of a still or a clip.

Edward, thanks for the tip - didn't know that I could double click the media then enter values.... the boxes are coloured as READ-only boxes - but they are editable, once again - thanks for the hint!

For me, the rendering speed disadvantage of Vegas isn't so important, I try to keep my projects at maximum 20 minutes - so the difference in redering time won't be more than 2-3 minutes... minutes that I earlier saved using Vegas faster GUI. BUT, I wouldn't cry if Vegas 4.0c or 4.1 boosted rendering
performance ;-)

// Lazze

Rob Lohman · May 3rd, 2003, 03:17 AM

It seems to do the same thing indeed from your description,
Edward!

May 1st, 2003, 01:21 PM	#1
Lars Siden Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden, Stockholm Posts: 469	Simple Benchmark Premiere v6.5 vs Vegas 4.0B Hi, After reading the posts about the lack of speed in Vegas - I was curious to do a simple test myself. I made a 1 min 5 sec long composition in both vegas and premiere. Both projects showing exactly the same, namely 1. Main video stream 2. A Photoshop PSD with alpha channel ( duration 1 min ) 3. Additive dissolve to video clip nr 2 Rendering time: Premiere 1.30 Vegas 1.42 Comments: In my opinion Vegas does a better job with the alpha matte on the PSD. Vegas is also much faster to work with than premiere - What I miss in Vegas is full control - ie. properties->Duration isn't there and many times when Premiere lets you enter an exact number, you have to use the mouse in Vegas. Final word: Today Vegas is the winnner of user-friendliness and Premiere the speed winner. With Premiere 7 around the corner, sonic foundry better sharpen their knifes because I think Premiere will be a killer app! Best regards, Lazze Z Sweden __________________ Sony HDR-CX130,Canon 5DMKII,i7 930@4.0, 12gb memory, 3x SSD + 2x1Tb(stripe), Geforce 480, Dual 24", Win 7 x64

May 2nd, 2003, 03:40 AM	#3
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Duration allows you to change the length of a clip whether it is a movie (frame rate changes) or a still picture (number of frames the still is being displayed changes).... __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 2nd, 2003, 07:53 AM	#5
Lars Siden Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden, Stockholm Posts: 469	It is as Rob says - fast way to set the duration of a still or a clip. Edward, thanks for the tip - didn't know that I could double click the media then enter values.... the boxes are coloured as READ-only boxes - but they are editable, once again - thanks for the hint! For me, the rendering speed disadvantage of Vegas isn't so important, I try to keep my projects at maximum 20 minutes - so the difference in redering time won't be more than 2-3 minutes... minutes that I earlier saved using Vegas faster GUI. BUT, I wouldn't cry if Vegas 4.0c or 4.1 boosted rendering performance ;-) // Lazze __________________ Sony HDR-CX130,Canon 5DMKII,i7 930@4.0, 12gb memory, 3x SSD + 2x1Tb(stripe), Geforce 480, Dual 24", Win 7 x64

May 3rd, 2003, 03:17 AM	#6
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	It seems to do the same thing indeed from your description, Edward! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 1st, 2003, 02:36 PM	#2
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Explain the "Properties - Duration" and how it is used (I don't use Premiere). It may be there in some fashion. I can think of at least one method (besides scripting) that could, possibly, provide that functionality if it means what it sounds like it means. The possibility: 1. Add the clip/picture to the timeline. 2. Double-click the clip (to select it) At this point, the timecodes immediatly below the timeline will show Selection Start, Selection End, Selection Length. 3. Double-click the Selection Length 4. Type in the desired time 5. Resize the clip to the new selection boundry Does this do the same thing????

May 2nd, 2003, 07:48 AM	#4
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Does my described technique do the same thing? (note: for video, you could do it with or without framerate changing)