Putting a 58mm threaded lens on a consumer camera made for smaller ones... at DVinfo.net

Alex Knappenberger · June 1st, 2003, 07:43 PM

Hey, I'm considering this 58mm lens, because it seems to be the only one like it...but I don't have a camera with 58mm threads, just 43mm...but thats not the problem, since I can buy a 43mm to 58mm step up ring for $10. My question is, would this work? It's a fisheye lens, and basically i'm just worried it won't be wide enough, or as wide as it would be on a camera more matched for it... considering the size of the lens behind it isn't as big as the one on a camera made for that size of lens...like a VX2000, not a $400 1CCD camera, like mine. Hopefully I explained what I am worried about, good enough...

Thanks.

Bryan Beasleigh · June 1st, 2003, 08:08 PM

That's a lot of weight on an aluminum stepping ring (most of the inexpensive stepping rings are aluminum) That sounds like a pretty drastic jump in lens size as well. My gut says don't.

Alex Knappenberger · June 1st, 2003, 11:06 PM

Thanks. My gut says it's not a good idea, either, for different reasons though. I don't think the stepping ring would have a problem holding it...

Chris Hurd · June 1st, 2003, 11:35 PM

There are 43mm wide-angle adapters available.

Frank Granovski · June 2nd, 2003, 02:14 AM

Alex, Pana has one and Tiffen has one, in the 43mm size. The Pana is probably better but doesn't come with filter threads on the front---just get a slip-on lens hood for a bit of protection.

John Jay · June 2nd, 2003, 12:42 PM

Alex

going from 43 to 58 depends on the quality of the stepper

Go for a GOYO stepper (the best IMO)

if not go military two step 43-49 then 49-58 which will spread the load a bit more

ive used a 1 lb 52mm widey on a 37mm no probs but it was a GOYO

Adrian Douglas · June 2nd, 2003, 09:09 PM

I'm not 100% sure Alex, but using a fisheye designed for a 58mm lens on a 43mm lens may reduce the distortion effect if the lenses have different fields of view.

Alex Knappenberger · June 2nd, 2003, 09:16 PM

Adrian, thats what my main question was concerning, thanks. Yeah, I don't think it has to do as so much of the field of view of the camera lens, since it would be about the same on my camera as on a camera with a bigger lens/filter size...but the size of the actual lens itself...get what i'm saying?

Adrian Douglas · June 3rd, 2003, 11:00 AM

In theory it should work as the step up rings will shift the optical planes of the fisheye forward so your 43mm lens should see the full view of the adapter. In practise though it may not, the best thing to do would be to give it a try, take your camera and the lens to a good shop and tell them what you are trying to do.

I just bought a fisheye lens for my still camera to shoot some skateboarding and the distortion is most evident at the extreme edges of the lens's FOV. With this in mind it's best to try out the step ring set-up and see if it give the effect you are after.

June 1st, 2003, 07:43 PM	#1
Alex Knappenberger High School Student Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canton, Ohio, USA Posts: 609	Putting a 58mm threaded lens on a consumer camera made for smaller ones... Hey, I'm considering this 58mm lens, because it seems to be the only one like it...but I don't have a camera with 58mm threads, just 43mm...but thats not the problem, since I can buy a 43mm to 58mm step up ring for $10. My question is, would this work? It's a fisheye lens, and basically i'm just worried it won't be wide enough, or as wide as it would be on a camera more matched for it... considering the size of the lens behind it isn't as big as the one on a camera made for that size of lens...like a VX2000, not a $400 1CCD camera, like mine. Hopefully I explained what I am worried about, good enough... Thanks.

June 1st, 2003, 11:35 PM	#4
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	There are 43mm wide-angle adapters available. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

June 2nd, 2003, 12:42 PM	#6
John Jay Major Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: US & THEM Posts: 827	Alex going from 43 to 58 depends on the quality of the stepper Go for a GOYO stepper (the best IMO) if not go military two step 43-49 then 49-58 which will spread the load a bit more ive used a 1 lb 52mm widey on a 37mm no probs but it was a GOYO __________________ John Jay Beware *PLUGGER-BYTES*

June 2nd, 2003, 09:09 PM	#7
Adrian Douglas Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chigasaki, Japan. Posts: 1,660	I'm not 100% sure Alex, but using a fisheye designed for a 58mm lens on a 43mm lens may reduce the distortion effect if the lenses have different fields of view. __________________ Adrian DVInfo.net Search for quick answers Where to buy? From the best in the business...DVInfo.net sponsors

June 3rd, 2003, 11:00 AM	#9
Adrian Douglas Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chigasaki, Japan. Posts: 1,660	In theory it should work as the step up rings will shift the optical planes of the fisheye forward so your 43mm lens should see the full view of the adapter. In practise though it may not, the best thing to do would be to give it a try, take your camera and the lens to a good shop and tell them what you are trying to do. I just bought a fisheye lens for my still camera to shoot some skateboarding and the distortion is most evident at the extreme edges of the lens's FOV. With this in mind it's best to try out the step ring set-up and see if it give the effect you are after. __________________ Adrian DVInfo.net Search for quick answers Where to buy? From the best in the business...DVInfo.net sponsors

June 1st, 2003, 08:08 PM	#2
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	That's a lot of weight on an aluminum stepping ring (most of the inexpensive stepping rings are aluminum) That sounds like a pretty drastic jump in lens size as well. My gut says don't.

June 1st, 2003, 11:06 PM	#3
Alex Knappenberger High School Student Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canton, Ohio, USA Posts: 609	Thanks. My gut says it's not a good idea, either, for different reasons though. I don't think the stepping ring would have a problem holding it...

June 2nd, 2003, 02:14 AM	#5
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Alex, Pana has one and Tiffen has one, in the 43mm size. The Pana is probably better but doesn't come with filter threads on the front---just get a slip-on lens hood for a bit of protection.

June 2nd, 2003, 09:16 PM	#8
Alex Knappenberger High School Student Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canton, Ohio, USA Posts: 609	Adrian, thats what my main question was concerning, thanks. Yeah, I don't think it has to do as so much of the field of view of the camera lens, since it would be about the same on my camera as on a camera with a bigger lens/filter size...but the size of the actual lens itself...get what i'm saying?