B n C and SVideo cables

Bryan Beasleigh · June 4th, 2003, 01:02 PM

Your camera has one RCA video out and one SVideo out. Your monitor has S Video and BNC in.

You have choices and looking at the prices the methods aren't much different in cost.

You either buy an S Video cable

an male RCA to BNC

a male RCA to male RCA with a BNC adapter

All will be within $10 of each other for a 50 ft cable. The difference between 50 and 25 ft wasn't that much either.

The RCA or BNC will give you less rez but does that really matter in the field ?

Robert Knecht Schmidt · June 4th, 2003, 01:14 PM

I think it matters, for checking focus and for ensuring that important small details are resolvable.

And, it's not just resolution that's lost; chrominance bandwidth is cut as well.

Josh Bass · June 4th, 2003, 05:24 PM

This local place tried to sell me 50 ft of Svideo cable for 89 dollars, and 100ft for 150 or something. It was thick round cable, and they said they didn't have any lesser grade. Guess it's off to B&H. How'm I supposed to give local merchants my business when they won't accomodate my needs?

Bryan Beasleigh · June 4th, 2003, 05:42 PM

http://www.hosatech.com/dealers/hosa_dealers_texas.html

I already gave you the links for the cable.

James Emory · June 4th, 2003, 10:39 PM

The cables that I described earlier are true 75 ohm broadcast quality and maintain a clean signal through 200 ft runs whether it's composite (RCA) or Y/C Component (S-Video). There are pictures of the reels and cables at the links below.

http://community.webtv.net/JEFProduc...PRODUCTIONUNIT

community.webtv.net/JEFCom/AVSNAKEREELFANTAIL

Eivind Vaa · June 8th, 2003, 08:23 PM

Is the difference in signal (s-video vs. composite) really important in the kind of work are you are doing. I'm of the opinion that the difference in signal is so small that it doesn't really matter, as long as the recorded signal is maximized. In my organization, we've used compoSITE signal to monitor the compoNENT signal coming from a Beta-SP cam, and I can't say that the couple of extra grains of noise or whatever bothered us.

The BNC-standard (Robert: I've heard that it's short for bayonet-Neill/Concelman, the guys that invented it) does the job every time, and especially in the field, or when doing live mixing. The danger of broken connections and worn plugs should be avoided, and the S-video DIN-standard is physically too weak. It's not so much the quality of picture, but the reliability of the connector that's important. How ever, in postproduction you could use whatever standard you like I guess, although I can't see that most of us would need to have any better than composite to monitor our video.

Eivind

Bryan Beasleigh · June 8th, 2003, 11:30 PM

"Bayonet Neil-Concelman" or "Bayonet Navy Connector" or "Baby Neil Connector"

from

http://www.wa1mba.org/rfconn.htm

Josh, just use what make you happy, you're the one that counts. Let me know if you were able to source those locally.

Josh Bass · June 8th, 2003, 11:34 PM

I want whatever gives me the objectively highest quality signal. I went with B&H.

Eivind Vaa · June 9th, 2003, 11:11 AM

How on earth can a sipmle three letter acronym stand for all this? What does the plug in question have to do with babies, nipples, nuts and the british navy?

Bayonet Neill Concelman connector
Bayonet Nipple Connector
Bayonet Nut Coupling
Baby N Connector
British Naval Connector

The BNC connector is also known as RG58

However, I just found this piece of text on the net explaining the origin of the BNC, and I calmed down:

http://www.qsl.net/zl2aa/other.html

(Scroll down to the headline "Other Useless (But Interesting) Information")

Vaa

Bryan Beasleigh · June 9th, 2003, 12:09 PM

It's a secure connection, does the name really matter. My point was , it's no big deal what the letters stand for.

June 4th, 2003, 01:14 PM	#17
Robert Knecht Schmidt Wrangler Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,933	I think it matters, for checking focus and for ensuring that important small details are resolvable. And, it's not just resolution that's lost; chrominance bandwidth is cut as well. __________________ All the best, Robert K S Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| The best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

June 4th, 2003, 05:24 PM	#18
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	This local place tried to sell me 50 ft of Svideo cable for 89 dollars, and 100ft for 150 or something. It was thick round cable, and they said they didn't have any lesser grade. Guess it's off to B&H. How'm I supposed to give local merchants my business when they won't accomodate my needs? __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

June 4th, 2003, 05:42 PM	#19
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	Texas dealers for Hosatech http://www.hosatech.com/dealers/hosa_dealers_texas.html I already gave you the links for the cable.

June 4th, 2003, 10:39 PM	#20
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	BNC Cables The cables that I described earlier are true 75 ohm broadcast quality and maintain a clean signal through 200 ft runs whether it's composite (RCA) or Y/C Component (S-Video). There are pictures of the reels and cables at the links below. http://community.webtv.net/JEFProduc...PRODUCTIONUNIT community.webtv.net/JEFCom/AVSNAKEREELFANTAIL

June 8th, 2003, 08:23 PM	#21
Eivind Vaa Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 35	Monitoring Is the difference in signal (s-video vs. composite) really important in the kind of work are you are doing. I'm of the opinion that the difference in signal is so small that it doesn't really matter, as long as the recorded signal is maximized. In my organization, we've used compoSITE signal to monitor the compoNENT signal coming from a Beta-SP cam, and I can't say that the couple of extra grains of noise or whatever bothered us. The BNC-standard (Robert: I've heard that it's short for bayonet-Neill/Concelman, the guys that invented it) does the job every time, and especially in the field, or when doing live mixing. The danger of broken connections and worn plugs should be avoided, and the S-video DIN-standard is physically too weak. It's not so much the quality of picture, but the reliability of the connector that's important. How ever, in postproduction you could use whatever standard you like I guess, although I can't see that most of us would need to have any better than composite to monitor our video. Eivind

June 4th, 2003, 01:02 PM	#16
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	Your camera has one RCA video out and one SVideo out. Your monitor has S Video and BNC in. You have choices and looking at the prices the methods aren't much different in cost. You either buy an S Video cable an male RCA to BNC a male RCA to male RCA with a BNC adapter All will be within $10 of each other for a 50 ft cable. The difference between 50 and 25 ft wasn't that much either. The RCA or BNC will give you less rez but does that really matter in the field ?

June 8th, 2003, 11:30 PM	#22
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	Everyones right, hows that? "Bayonet Neil-Concelman" or "Bayonet Navy Connector" or "Baby Neil Connector" from http://www.wa1mba.org/rfconn.htm Josh, just use what make you happy, you're the one that counts. Let me know if you were able to source those locally.

June 8th, 2003, 11:34 PM	#23
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	I want whatever gives me the objectively highest quality signal. I went with B&H. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

June 9th, 2003, 11:11 AM	#24
Eivind Vaa Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 35	Interesting (BNC) How on earth can a sipmle three letter acronym stand for all this? What does the plug in question have to do with babies, nipples, nuts and the british navy? Bayonet Neill Concelman connector Bayonet Nipple Connector Bayonet Nut Coupling Baby N Connector British Naval Connector The BNC connector is also known as RG58 However, I just found this piece of text on the net explaining the origin of the BNC, and I calmed down: http://www.qsl.net/zl2aa/other.html (Scroll down to the headline "Other Useless (But Interesting) Information") Vaa

June 9th, 2003, 12:09 PM	#25
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	It's a secure connection, does the name really matter. My point was , it's no big deal what the letters stand for.