Analog quality vs DV? at DVinfo.net

Jami Jokinen · August 22nd, 2003, 04:32 AM

How good/bad is the picture quality of analog pro camcorders compared to prosumer DV (if captured via Canopus A/D converter) ?

I might get my hands on Sony DXC-325P (1/2" 3 ccd) with EVV-9000P back (Hi8) and Canon lens for a _very_ cheap price.

I know I would have to get the A/D converter and possibly use another audio hardware for recording sound. But it's tempting nevertheless, if just for the 1/2" CCD, BW viewfinder and a real lens with real focusing.

Has anyone used this camera ? Or some other analog system with A/D converter? What's the picture quality like?

What does the resolution/quality depend on?

If the tape system is the weakest link, could the picture be improved if it's being connected straight out of the camera to a A/D converter and then to a small dv camcorder?

Frank Granovski · August 22nd, 2003, 04:40 AM

If you want similar resolution from a analog to DV converted signal, might I suggest looking at beta?

Bill Pryor · August 22nd, 2003, 09:10 AM

You could probably get a BetacamSP back for that camera, but then you'd have to get a Betacam SP deck too, and by today's standards that camera isn't going to look all that wonderful. However, if it's cheap enough it might be worth a look. I used to see some fairly good Hi8 stuff. The look is different, and is going to be much grainier and noisier than what you're accustomed to seeing today. That camera was a very good deal for the money in its day.

John Jay · August 22nd, 2003, 01:05 PM

You might like to consider adapting (SVideo) the camera head to pump into one of those portable D8 recorders (GVD200/800) which you could mount on a waist band/belt

the picture would be very sweet indeed @700lines

Dave Largent · August 22nd, 2003, 05:47 PM

Hi,
A couple things. I think the 325 was only 500 lines. There was a 327 that was 700 lines. Also, were not the both of them
AC power only (i.e. no battery option)? Also, isn't the GVD200/800 for some reason limited to recording 500 lines max?
Dave

Jeff Donald · August 22nd, 2003, 06:07 PM

They both could be powered either AC or DC. The 500 line limit is based on the tape bandwidth in most cases. The 325 was a fairly stripped down model. I was not impressed with it's image quality when it was new. I doubt it really measures up by today's standards. The price needs to be pretty cheap or you may be disappointed..

August 22nd, 2003, 04:32 AM	#1
Jami Jokinen Regular Crew Join Date: May 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 103	Analog quality vs DV? How good/bad is the picture quality of analog pro camcorders compared to prosumer DV (if captured via Canopus A/D converter) ? I might get my hands on Sony DXC-325P (1/2" 3 ccd) with EVV-9000P back (Hi8) and Canon lens for a _very_ cheap price. I know I would have to get the A/D converter and possibly use another audio hardware for recording sound. But it's tempting nevertheless, if just for the 1/2" CCD, BW viewfinder and a real lens with real focusing. Has anyone used this camera ? Or some other analog system with A/D converter? What's the picture quality like? What does the resolution/quality depend on? If the tape system is the weakest link, could the picture be improved if it's being connected straight out of the camera to a A/D converter and then to a small dv camcorder?

August 22nd, 2003, 01:05 PM	#4
John Jay Major Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: US & THEM Posts: 827	You might like to consider adapting (SVideo) the camera head to pump into one of those portable D8 recorders (GVD200/800) which you could mount on a waist band/belt the picture would be very sweet indeed @700lines __________________ John Jay Beware *PLUGGER-BYTES*

August 22nd, 2003, 06:07 PM	#6
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	They both could be powered either AC or DC. The 500 line limit is based on the tape bandwidth in most cases. The 325 was a fairly stripped down model. I was not impressed with it's image quality when it was new. I doubt it really measures up by today's standards. The price needs to be pretty cheap or you may be disappointed.. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

August 22nd, 2003, 04:40 AM	#2
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	If you want similar resolution from a analog to DV converted signal, might I suggest looking at beta?

August 22nd, 2003, 09:10 AM	#3
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	You could probably get a BetacamSP back for that camera, but then you'd have to get a Betacam SP deck too, and by today's standards that camera isn't going to look all that wonderful. However, if it's cheap enough it might be worth a look. I used to see some fairly good Hi8 stuff. The look is different, and is going to be much grainier and noisier than what you're accustomed to seeing today. That camera was a very good deal for the money in its day.

August 22nd, 2003, 05:47 PM	#5
Dave Largent Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,483	Hi, A couple things. I think the 325 was only 500 lines. There was a 327 that was 700 lines. Also, were not the both of them AC power only (i.e. no battery option)? Also, isn't the GVD200/800 for some reason limited to recording 500 lines max? Dave