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Guy Godwin · January 5th, 2009, 05:27 PM

I am having problem with Windows media player on my encoded HD footage.
Anybody else have this problem?

What media player is recommended for HD footage?

David Stoneburner · January 5th, 2009, 08:49 PM

Try VLC player. It plays just about anything.

Guy Godwin · January 5th, 2009, 08:53 PM

That is exactly what the folks at Adobe told me to do. However, the picture quality looks bad.

??

Perrone Ford · January 5th, 2009, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guy Godwin

I am having problem with Windows media player on my encoded HD footage.
Anybody else have this problem?

What media player is recommended for HD footage?

What problem? Could be a million things, so clue us in. My WMV encoded files play just fine.

Guy Godwin · January 5th, 2009, 09:06 PM

I am a newbie to HD.

I am getting a poping noise and delayed/jittery footage when I encode with anything H264. I get the same with anything that has the sound included. However, if I use MPEG2 with no sound I get great footage...with the sound the problem occurs again.

However, regardless of what I use the file plays fine in my NLE editing windows (Premire Pro CS3)

WMV files seem to be fine although the motion blur is bad. ( I think this is more of my frame rate though)

I have never had this problem with SD footage? The player works fine with all HD footage that has been scaled down to SD also...

just confused??

Perrone Ford · January 5th, 2009, 09:24 PM

Well,

At least now we know that you are using CS3. That's a big help. So let's start with the basics.

1. What kind of machine are you on? PC/Mac. What CPU speed? What disk configuration?
2. How much RAM is in the machine?
3. When you render to WMV, what settings are you using? What frame size (1920x1080 or 1280x720)
4. What camera did the footage come from? Was it shot interlaced or progressive?

Sounds to me that you are using some bad encoding settings and it's causing some problems, or your system is too slow for playback with HD video.

Answers to the questions above will solve some of the guesswork.

Guy Godwin · January 5th, 2009, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perrone Ford

Well,

At least now we know that you are using CS3. That's a big help. So let's start with the basics.

1. What kind of machine are you on? PC/Mac. What CPU speed? What disk configuration?
PC
AMD Quad Core 9600 2.3Ghz

Disk configuration?? Not sure I am just using the internal partitioned C drive. (My external dies last week before I started HD ing)

2. How much RAM is in the machine?
4.0 GB (64 Bit Vista system)

3. When you render to WMV, what settings are you using? What frame size (1920x1080 or 1280x720)

Basic setting's
1080p 24f HighQuality
Output = 1920x1080

4. What camera did the footage come from? Was it shot interlaced or progressive?
I shot 60i, 1/60 (too slow I think) on a Canon XHA1

Sounds to me that you are using some bad encoding settings and it's causing some problems, or your system is too slow for playback with HD video.

Answers to the questions above will solve some of the guesswork.

For what it is worth. Playback of other peoples files is fine on this PC.

Perrone Ford · January 5th, 2009, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guy Godwin

For what it is worth. Playback of other peoples files is fine on this PC.

Trying to render to your system drive is a no-no. Trying to render to the system drive when that is also where the source file is... well, I am surprised it worked at all.

Guy Godwin · January 5th, 2009, 10:05 PM

If I understand you correctly.
I can only render to the system drive if the source file is in the same directory?
(which is what I got)

Should I try and external drive or a partitioned one?

Do you think this computer speed is enough?

Perrone Ford · January 5th, 2009, 10:54 PM

Computer speed is fine.

But you need to seperate the drives where you store and render your video, from where the operating system is located. Keep your video off drive c:\.

Partitioning does not make any difference. You want that stuff on a separate physical drive. And if possible you want a separate physical drive from where your source video is, and where you are writing the new stuff to.

I break this rule on my laptop, but it's really not recommended. I think this can cause some issues, but honestly, I think there is something else going on as well. Not sure what to tell you though. Maybe someone with Premiere can help you more.

Guy Godwin · January 5th, 2009, 11:03 PM

OK.
I actaully have a 500GB HDD out trying to get files recovered. I will replace it and see the problem went away.

I will have it connected with FireWire. I have a 100G external that is USB. I assume this will slow it too much also.

Perrone Ford · January 5th, 2009, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guy Godwin

I have a 100G external that is USB. I assume this will slow it too much also.

I'd certainly try that. Put the source file on it and render to the internal drive.

Guy Godwin · January 6th, 2009, 09:10 AM

I have not had much time to spend on this yet today. But the initial results are BINGO!
I have encoded a file on my external and it is the best one I have had in HD so far.

I think you nailed it.

Thanks for the help.

Perrone Ford · January 6th, 2009, 09:28 AM

Glad to hear it. Hope that all works uot for you. :)

Guy Godwin · January 6th, 2009, 09:51 AM

I actually started a new thread. If you have a chance and an opinion I would be interested in it.

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/high-defi...tml#post989813

January 5th, 2009, 05:27 PM	#1
Guy Godwin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Florence, KY Posts: 345	Windows media player I am having problem with Windows media player on my encoded HD footage. Anybody else have this problem? What media player is recommended for HD footage?

January 5th, 2009, 09:24 PM	#6
Perrone Ford Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 4,100	Well, At least now we know that you are using CS3. That's a big help. So let's start with the basics. 1. What kind of machine are you on? PC/Mac. What CPU speed? What disk configuration? 2. How much RAM is in the machine? 3. When you render to WMV, what settings are you using? What frame size (1920x1080 or 1280x720) 4. What camera did the footage come from? Was it shot interlaced or progressive? Sounds to me that you are using some bad encoding settings and it's causing some problems, or your system is too slow for playback with HD video. Answers to the questions above will solve some of the guesswork. __________________ DVX100, PMW-EX1, Canon 550D, FigRig, Dell Octocore, Avid MC4/5, MB Looks, RedCineX, Matrox MX02 mini, GTech RAID, Edirol R-4, Senn. G2 Evo, Countryman, Moles and Lowels.

January 5th, 2009, 10:54 PM	#10
Perrone Ford Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 4,100	Computer speed is fine. But you need to seperate the drives where you store and render your video, from where the operating system is located. Keep your video off drive c:\. Partitioning does not make any difference. You want that stuff on a separate physical drive. And if possible you want a separate physical drive from where your source video is, and where you are writing the new stuff to. I break this rule on my laptop, but it's really not recommended. I think this can cause some issues, but honestly, I think there is something else going on as well. Not sure what to tell you though. Maybe someone with Premiere can help you more. __________________ DVX100, PMW-EX1, Canon 550D, FigRig, Dell Octocore, Avid MC4/5, MB Looks, RedCineX, Matrox MX02 mini, GTech RAID, Edirol R-4, Senn. G2 Evo, Countryman, Moles and Lowels.

January 6th, 2009, 09:28 AM	#14
Perrone Ford Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 4,100	Glad to hear it. Hope that all works uot for you. :) __________________ DVX100, PMW-EX1, Canon 550D, FigRig, Dell Octocore, Avid MC4/5, MB Looks, RedCineX, Matrox MX02 mini, GTech RAID, Edirol R-4, Senn. G2 Evo, Countryman, Moles and Lowels.

January 5th, 2009, 08:49 PM	#2
David Stoneburner Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 493	Try VLC player. It plays just about anything.

January 5th, 2009, 08:53 PM	#3
Guy Godwin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Florence, KY Posts: 345	That is exactly what the folks at Adobe told me to do. However, the picture quality looks bad. ??

January 5th, 2009, 09:06 PM	#5
Guy Godwin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Florence, KY Posts: 345	I am a newbie to HD. I am getting a poping noise and delayed/jittery footage when I encode with anything H264. I get the same with anything that has the sound included. However, if I use MPEG2 with no sound I get great footage...with the sound the problem occurs again. However, regardless of what I use the file plays fine in my NLE editing windows (Premire Pro CS3) WMV files seem to be fine although the motion blur is bad. ( I think this is more of my frame rate though) I have never had this problem with SD footage? The player works fine with all HD footage that has been scaled down to SD also... just confused??

January 5th, 2009, 10:05 PM	#9
Guy Godwin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Florence, KY Posts: 345	If I understand you correctly. I can only render to the system drive if the source file is in the same directory? (which is what I got) Should I try and external drive or a partitioned one? Do you think this computer speed is enough?

January 5th, 2009, 11:03 PM	#11
Guy Godwin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Florence, KY Posts: 345	OK. I actaully have a 500GB HDD out trying to get files recovered. I will replace it and see the problem went away. I will have it connected with FireWire. I have a 100G external that is USB. I assume this will slow it too much also.

January 6th, 2009, 09:10 AM	#13
Guy Godwin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Florence, KY Posts: 345	I have not had much time to spend on this yet today. But the initial results are BINGO! I have encoded a file on my external and it is the best one I have had in HD so far. I think you nailed it. Thanks for the help.

January 6th, 2009, 09:51 AM	#15
Guy Godwin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Florence, KY Posts: 345	I actually started a new thread. If you have a chance and an opinion I would be interested in it. http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/high-defi...tml#post989813