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Tommy Gjerde · December 20th, 2003, 08:10 PM

Please, why are you all exporting to .mov files ?
First of all, the wmv export lets you pack more content into smaller files, also the mov file is not available for most windows users. Please keep in mind that only 5 % of the browsing visitors are using macintosh. So export to wma,wmv or similar. Thank you for your time
Tommy

Jeff Donald · December 20th, 2003, 08:18 PM

A very high percentage of media types (animators, photographers, NLE users, designers etc.) are Mac users. Two of the three Forum Administrators uses Macs and near a third of the moderators use Macs. Judging from the participation levels in our NLE forums, over 40% of the members use Macs.

AJ Briones · December 20th, 2003, 09:23 PM

quicktime (mov) is not a mac only format. quicktime player and quicktime player pro is available for the pc market. i speak for myself when i say that i have an aversion for all things microsoft (for reasons that would be off topic here), but i won't be surprised if i'm the only one.

additionally, while maybe only 5% of computer users are mac users, it's closer to 40-50% in the design field.

Richard Mellor · December 20th, 2003, 09:29 PM

I was just at a mac site, and the mac to pc use was something like 3% mac to 97% pc my local public access tv station just went all mac training there were three people that took the course in a city of 100,000 they found out what 3% user base means.

Scott Anderson · December 21st, 2003, 04:44 PM

Please, why are you all exporting to .mov files ?

Well, how about for starters that a solidly encoded progressive download mov file gives you the most solid, reliable experience for the widest possible range of computers/operating systems/bandwidth, etc?

the mov file is not available for most windows users

Have you been living under a rock for the past 10 years? The player's FREE. In fact, almost every major player is free. Here, dowload them all:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...a/players.aspx
www.real.com/
www.apple.com/quicktime/download/

and, just for fun:

www.divx.com/

Richard Mellor · December 21st, 2003, 06:58 PM

I just went to real player for the free player. they want my credit card number and it would cost 9.95 a month

John Hudson · December 21st, 2003, 07:18 PM

No, no, no.

Look around the site and you'll find the FREE version. That's just their clever way of trying to screw you.

http://www.real.com/realoneplayer.html?pp=choice&src=realplayer,120303r1choice_c1_3_2_1_1

Look on the bottom right.

Glenn Chan · December 21st, 2003, 07:43 PM

Try Real Alternative instead. It won't try to burrow itself into your system like the RealOne Player does. http://www.ntcompatible.com/story23517.html

There's also QuickTime Alternative.

And there's also Windows Media Player "Alternative". It doesn't have the bloated interface and it's already on your system! :) You can go into Explorer and change the file associations so that all Windows Media Player related files are opened with "mplayer2.exe" (you might need to find that first).

2- Windows Media Player 8 and 9 can give better compression than Quicktime. However, Quicktime can be more compatible than Windows Media Player (oh the irony). With Quicktime, every single PC I've run into will play back any Quicktime movie with the latest Quicktime Player. Windows Media Player doesn't do that (win98 users can't easily play back the latest codecs). With Quicktime however playback may be choppy if the computer can't handle decompressing the codec used.

AJ Briones · December 22nd, 2003, 04:24 PM

try videolan's vlc player. it works for windows, mac os x, beos, unix, linux, yopy and zaurus.

runs wmv files, avi files, mov files, mpeg files, divx files. the only thing it doesn't yet support is real, because it's a proprietary format.

find it at videolan.org/vlc.

Brian Standing · December 23rd, 2003, 03:38 PM

This one looks interesting, too:
http://www.inmatrix.com/files/zoomplayer_download.shtml

Does Real, too.

Haven't used it, yet, but may try it out tonight.

Rob Lohman · December 23rd, 2003, 05:04 PM

I'm not sure whether all of the players mentioned do this, but
I do think ZoomPlayer uses codecs already installed. So you
must have RealPlayer installed for ZP to play the format back?

Brian Standing · December 24th, 2003, 11:24 AM

Here's the info on Real from the ZoomPlayer site:

Real Media:
To get Real Media content (RM/RA/RV) to play within Zoom Player (or any other DirectShow based player), you will need the "RealMedia Splitter" filter from the Guliverkli open-source project by Gabest. See the Technical Lead-in at the beginning of this article for information on how to manually install filters.

Download : SourceForge.net.

December 20th, 2003, 08:10 PM	#1
Tommy Gjerde Tourist Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 1	Available format film clips Please, why are you all exporting to .mov files ? First of all, the wmv export lets you pack more content into smaller files, also the mov file is not available for most windows users. Please keep in mind that only 5 % of the browsing visitors are using macintosh. So export to wma,wmv or similar. Thank you for your time Tommy

December 20th, 2003, 08:18 PM	#2
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	A very high percentage of media types (animators, photographers, NLE users, designers etc.) are Mac users. Two of the three Forum Administrators uses Macs and near a third of the moderators use Macs. Judging from the participation levels in our NLE forums, over 40% of the members use Macs. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

December 20th, 2003, 09:23 PM	#3
AJ Briones Posting disabled - Contact Admin. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 8	i beg to differ quicktime (mov) is not a mac only format. quicktime player and quicktime player pro is available for the pc market. i speak for myself when i say that i have an aversion for all things microsoft (for reasons that would be off topic here), but i won't be surprised if i'm the only one. additionally, while maybe only 5% of computer users are mac users, it's closer to 40-50% in the design field.

December 22nd, 2003, 04:24 PM	#9
AJ Briones Posting disabled - Contact Admin. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 8	another alternative try videolan's vlc player. it works for windows, mac os x, beos, unix, linux, yopy and zaurus. runs wmv files, avi files, mov files, mpeg files, divx files. the only thing it doesn't yet support is real, because it's a proprietary format. find it at videolan.org/vlc.

December 23rd, 2003, 03:38 PM	#10
Brian Standing Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 621	Here's another multi-player alternative This one looks interesting, too: http://www.inmatrix.com/files/zoomplayer_download.shtml Does Real, too. Haven't used it, yet, but may try it out tonight.

December 20th, 2003, 09:29 PM	#4
Richard Mellor Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: cambridge ma Posts: 247	I was just at a mac site, and the mac to pc use was something like 3% mac to 97% pc my local public access tv station just went all mac training there were three people that took the course in a city of 100,000 they found out what 3% user base means.

December 21st, 2003, 04:44 PM	#5
Scott Anderson Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 327	Please, why are you all exporting to .mov files ? Well, how about for starters that a solidly encoded progressive download mov file gives you the most solid, reliable experience for the widest possible range of computers/operating systems/bandwidth, etc? the mov file is not available for most windows users Have you been living under a rock for the past 10 years? The player's FREE. In fact, almost every major player is free. Here, dowload them all: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...a/players.aspx www.real.com/ www.apple.com/quicktime/download/ and, just for fun: www.divx.com/

December 21st, 2003, 06:58 PM	#6
Richard Mellor Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: cambridge ma Posts: 247	I just went to real player for the free player. they want my credit card number and it would cost 9.95 a month

December 21st, 2003, 07:18 PM	#7
John Hudson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: 32° 44' N 117° 10' W Posts: 820	No, no, no. Look around the site and you'll find the FREE version. That's just their clever way of trying to screw you. http://www.real.com/realoneplayer.html?pp=choice&src=realplayer,120303r1choice_c1_3_2_1_1 Look on the bottom right.

December 21st, 2003, 07:43 PM	#8
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	Try Real Alternative instead. It won't try to burrow itself into your system like the RealOne Player does. http://www.ntcompatible.com/story23517.html There's also QuickTime Alternative. And there's also Windows Media Player "Alternative". It doesn't have the bloated interface and it's already on your system! :) You can go into Explorer and change the file associations so that all Windows Media Player related files are opened with "mplayer2.exe" (you might need to find that first). 2- Windows Media Player 8 and 9 can give better compression than Quicktime. However, Quicktime can be more compatible than Windows Media Player (oh the irony). With Quicktime, every single PC I've run into will play back any Quicktime movie with the latest Quicktime Player. Windows Media Player doesn't do that (win98 users can't easily play back the latest codecs). With Quicktime however playback may be choppy if the computer can't handle decompressing the codec used.

December 23rd, 2003, 05:04 PM	#11
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I'm not sure whether all of the players mentioned do this, but I do think ZoomPlayer uses codecs already installed. So you must have RealPlayer installed for ZP to play the format back? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

December 24th, 2003, 11:24 AM	#12
Brian Standing Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 621	Here's the info on Real from the ZoomPlayer site: Real Media: To get Real Media content (RM/RA/RV) to play within Zoom Player (or any other DirectShow based player), you will need the "RealMedia Splitter" filter from the Guliverkli open-source project by Gabest. See the Technical Lead-in at the beginning of this article for information on how to manually install filters. Download : SourceForge.net.