Assorted posts from 2002Q2

Jay Reilly · May 18th, 2002, 11:56 AM

Hi Everyone,

Well after years of using a little hand held I finally got my XL1s...brand new from B and H and I pop in a tape like I have done a million times before ...the viewfind error pops up...

"EJECT TAPE"

The tape is jammed and it will not come out!!

So very frustrating after years of anticipation, paying the cash, waiting for the shipping, piece it together...first day...was gonna head down to the beach to take some surfin shots and this happen! @#%^&*!&!!!!

So I have a warrenty...should I...

send it in for warrenty
or take it local and have someone look at it first(as it might not be that big of a deal...and I dont want to be without it for like 4 months, during repairs!)

Any advice or suggestions would be great.

Thanks

Frank Granovski · May 18th, 2002, 02:03 PM

I'd get B&H to replace the cam. Arrange it with them.

M. Bazaillion · June 1st, 2002, 09:37 AM

Just a thought...

I wonder how hard it would be to acheive uncompressed 720x486 video out of a good prosumer cam.

The 3 ccd's all have at least 8 bits per RGB channel coming out to an ADC then into the DSP.

If you could tap off each of these and run them through an additional set of ADC then to buffered jacks.

Also jack out the hsync/vsync as well.

I would seem that it would be possible to output uncompressed 720x480i 4:4:4 video to a digital disk recorder.

Another solution would be to get a panasonic studio camera EQ-600 ($4995) and build a custom card to do uncompressed. Since it allows many different cards to be used for various formats.

Martin Munthe · June 1st, 2002, 11:07 AM

I'ts great when guys like you don't settle for what Sony, JVC or Panasonic thinks would be good prosumer limitations.

But it might turn out to be more economic to go with a 26-pin CCU camera in the long run. JVC and Sony have them in the 8-10K region. You can jack them up to a mac or pc with an uncompressed card and capture away. DDR's are very pricey and you will hardly get any support on a camcorder where you have been tampering with the electronics.

I was wondering; what would you be editing 4:4:4 video on? I can't think of a card that does anything other than 4:2:2 uncompressed.

Ford Minton · June 4th, 2002, 02:17 AM

Hope this is not a stupid question, but what is a black burst box?

Jeff Donald · June 5th, 2002, 01:18 AM

A black burst box is usually found in post production and broadcast studios. Most are rack mount versions, but portable boxes are also available. The box generates a perfect NTSC signal ( or PAL?) and is usually fed to a Distributation Amp (DA). The signals are then run to the different VTRs and devices that need sync (waveform monitors/vectorscopes etc.). The different devices are then set to accept external sync and presto...all the devices are now timed together. The length of the cables effects the timing of the signal, lengths are multiples of the longest run or all kept the same length. Once all the VTRs are timed the signals can all be sent to different machines through a patch panel. This enables edit suites to feed signals back and forth.

Black burst is a certain type of NTSC signal. It contains all the timing signals (horizontal, vertical etc.) and the burst signal. The burst can be displayed on a vectorscope and waveform monitor.

Jeff

Thomas Berg Petersen · June 6th, 2002, 02:36 PM

Hi DV community,
I am going to produce a DV short which will be shot in September 2002.
I basically need a film crew: dp, sound, light and actors.
Does anyone know of any NYC webforums where DV/independent filmmakers hang out, posting for film crew, actors other than newyork.craigslist.org?
Please advise.
Tom

Steve Nunez · June 7th, 2002, 12:14 PM

Thomas,

You can try contacting the folks over at DVDojo- they have tons of people there into making independantly produced dv films...they're based at downtown Manhattan (Alphabet City)....(dvdojo.com) I'm gonna try to get there in the next few days and check out the operation myself 1sthand....

...I'd like to help out as well- throw me an email and we'll hook-up.
I have an XL1S and EF adapter for EOS lenses and would be willing to participate.

K. Forman · June 15th, 2002, 06:43 AM

Hello all,
I just found this on a newsgroup, and offer it up for inspection. http://www.tgproductions.com/reflector/
Keith

John Klein · June 16th, 2002, 04:08 PM

I need to make a call to see if my tape was duped or anything but I just saw one of my cable b-casts and the top (white) end sucked.

I use FCP which has something akin to a waveform monitor and I've got a couple of questions.

In FCP there is a saturation button which shows quite different levels than without the button pushed (where it shows what I believe to only be peaks). What is the correlation of the peaks to the saturation levels? And can you be Ok with the peaks (near or at 100IRE) and not OK with the saturation levels?

My tape (if it's the same one I submitted) showed 95 to maybe 100 peaks (man in off-white robe), but the SAT level was about 103. I've seen stuff blown worse, with SAT levels about 110, so I wouldn't think that just over 100 would be too bad. Played fine at home (sorry just a nice TV, no monitor), not on air.

No audio "interference" was apparent, but the whites were crushed and the contrast seemed to be higher than I've seen on my other stuff.

Any idea about the different levels of IRE shown in FCP's WF monitor? There's even different levels of SAT which confuse me even more.

Assuming they duped it via composite lines (from one pro deck to another) could that have messed up my tape enough to get the levels outa' wack?

-Gracias

Chris Hurd · June 16th, 2002, 04:10 PM

This post belongs in the Editing on the Mac forum... I've already moved it there; please pick up the thread at that location as it's more appropriate for that forum than this one.

I'll remove this copy in a little bit. See you in the Editing on the Mac forum,

Jay Reilly · June 18th, 2002, 07:56 PM

Hi Everyone,

I am working on a corporate piece in a few weeks and I need stock footage of needy children...the video is for a charity and I need about 20-25 seconds of stock video...

Do you know where I such video?

Thanks

Chris Hurd · June 23rd, 2002, 07:24 AM

Check the back pages of most trade magazines such as Videography and American Cinematographer... you'll usually find six to eight or more sources for stock footage of all kinds. Hope this helps,

May 18th, 2002, 11:56 AM	#31
Jay Reilly New Boot Join Date: May 2002 Location: San Diego County Posts: 20	HELP!! Only a day old and it is broken!! Hi Everyone, Well after years of using a little hand held I finally got my XL1s...brand new from B and H and I pop in a tape like I have done a million times before ...the viewfind error pops up... "EJECT TAPE" The tape is jammed and it will not come out!! So very frustrating after years of anticipation, paying the cash, waiting for the shipping, piece it together...first day...was gonna head down to the beach to take some surfin shots and this happen! @#%^&*!&!!!! So I have a warrenty...should I... send it in for warrenty or take it local and have someone look at it first(as it might not be that big of a deal...and I dont want to be without it for like 4 months, during repairs!) Any advice or suggestions would be great. Thanks __________________ Jay Reilly Oceanside, CA jay@jayreilly.com

June 1st, 2002, 09:37 AM	#33
M. Bazaillion New Boot Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 7	Uncompressed DV via After Market Mod? Just a thought... I wonder how hard it would be to acheive uncompressed 720x486 video out of a good prosumer cam. The 3 ccd's all have at least 8 bits per RGB channel coming out to an ADC then into the DSP. If you could tap off each of these and run them through an additional set of ADC then to buffered jacks. Also jack out the hsync/vsync as well. I would seem that it would be possible to output uncompressed 720x480i 4:4:4 video to a digital disk recorder. Another solution would be to get a panasonic studio camera EQ-600 ($4995) and build a custom card to do uncompressed. Since it allows many different cards to be used for various formats.

June 1st, 2002, 11:07 AM	#34
Martin Munthe Major Player Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 331	I'ts great when guys like you don't settle for what Sony, JVC or Panasonic thinks would be good prosumer limitations. But it might turn out to be more economic to go with a 26-pin CCU camera in the long run. JVC and Sony have them in the 8-10K region. You can jack them up to a mac or pc with an uncompressed card and capture away. DDR's are very pricey and you will hardly get any support on a camcorder where you have been tampering with the electronics. I was wondering; what would you be editing 4:4:4 video on? I can't think of a card that does anything other than 4:2:2 uncompressed. __________________ Martin Munthe VFX Supervisor/DP/Director

June 4th, 2002, 02:17 AM	#35
Ford Minton Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San francisco Posts: 54	Blackburst??? Hope this is not a stupid question, but what is a black burst box?

June 6th, 2002, 02:36 PM	#37
Thomas Berg Petersen Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NYC, NY Posts: 111	Webforums for NYC filmmakers - where? Hi DV community, I am going to produce a DV short which will be shot in September 2002. I basically need a film crew: dp, sound, light and actors. Does anyone know of any NYC webforums where DV/independent filmmakers hang out, posting for film crew, actors other than newyork.craigslist.org? Please advise. Tom __________________ Thomas

May 18th, 2002, 02:03 PM	#32
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	I'd get B&H to replace the cam. Arrange it with them.

June 5th, 2002, 01:18 AM	#36
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	A black burst box is usually found in post production and broadcast studios. Most are rack mount versions, but portable boxes are also available. The box generates a perfect NTSC signal ( or PAL?) and is usually fed to a Distributation Amp (DA). The signals are then run to the different VTRs and devices that need sync (waveform monitors/vectorscopes etc.). The different devices are then set to accept external sync and presto...all the devices are now timed together. The length of the cables effects the timing of the signal, lengths are multiples of the longest run or all kept the same length. Once all the VTRs are timed the signals can all be sent to different machines through a patch panel. This enables edit suites to feed signals back and forth. Black burst is a certain type of NTSC signal. It contains all the timing signals (horizontal, vertical etc.) and the burst signal. The burst can be displayed on a vectorscope and waveform monitor. Jeff

June 7th, 2002, 12:14 PM	#38
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	NYC Thomas, You can try contacting the folks over at DVDojo- they have tons of people there into making independantly produced dv films...they're based at downtown Manhattan (Alphabet City)....(dvdojo.com) I'm gonna try to get there in the next few days and check out the operation myself 1sthand.... ...I'd like to help out as well- throw me an email and we'll hook-up. I have an XL1S and EF adapter for EOS lenses and would be willing to participate. __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com

June 15th, 2002, 06:43 AM	#39
K. Forman Capt. Quirk Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia Posts: 3,596	Mini reflector Hello all, I just found this on a newsgroup, and offer it up for inspection. http://www.tgproductions.com/reflector/ Keith

June 16th, 2002, 04:08 PM	#40
John Klein Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 182	? re: 100 IRE broadcast levels FCP I need to make a call to see if my tape was duped or anything but I just saw one of my cable b-casts and the top (white) end sucked. I use FCP which has something akin to a waveform monitor and I've got a couple of questions. In FCP there is a saturation button which shows quite different levels than without the button pushed (where it shows what I believe to only be peaks). What is the correlation of the peaks to the saturation levels? And can you be Ok with the peaks (near or at 100IRE) and not OK with the saturation levels? My tape (if it's the same one I submitted) showed 95 to maybe 100 peaks (man in off-white robe), but the SAT level was about 103. I've seen stuff blown worse, with SAT levels about 110, so I wouldn't think that just over 100 would be too bad. Played fine at home (sorry just a nice TV, no monitor), not on air. No audio "interference" was apparent, but the whites were crushed and the contrast seemed to be higher than I've seen on my other stuff. Any idea about the different levels of IRE shown in FCP's WF monitor? There's even different levels of SAT which confuse me even more. Assuming they duped it via composite lines (from one pro deck to another) could that have messed up my tape enough to get the levels outa' wack? -Gracias __________________ < >< . . . . . < >< . . . . . < ><

June 16th, 2002, 04:10 PM	#41
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	This post belongs in the Editing on the Mac forum... I've already moved it there; please pick up the thread at that location as it's more appropriate for that forum than this one. I'll remove this copy in a little bit. See you in the Editing on the Mac forum, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

June 18th, 2002, 07:56 PM	#42
Jay Reilly New Boot Join Date: May 2002 Location: San Diego County Posts: 20	Need Stock Video Hi Everyone, I am working on a corporate piece in a few weeks and I need stock footage of needy children...the video is for a charity and I need about 20-25 seconds of stock video... Do you know where I such video? Thanks __________________ Jay Reilly Oceanside, CA jay@jayreilly.com

June 23rd, 2002, 07:24 AM	#43
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Check the back pages of most trade magazines such as Videography and American Cinematographer... you'll usually find six to eight or more sources for stock footage of all kinds. Hope this helps, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!