pc or mac

Jeff Donald · July 14th, 2004, 08:22 PM

Dylan, if I use your logic to buy an auto, then I definitely want to stay away from BMW and Mercedes. Combined, they make up less than 5% of the market.

Ken Tanaka · July 14th, 2004, 08:35 PM

Graeme offers sage advice.

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So, in esscence, it's an easy decision - pick the app you like, and buy the best quality machine to run it on.

Unless, of course, you select Avid...in which case you should buy the purdier machine.<g>

Richard Alvarez · July 14th, 2004, 08:40 PM

Yup, Avid will run on PC or Mac.

For what its worth. In the shop where I work, the boss sits in front of a Mac, cutting on FCP and I sit in front of a turnkey PC cutting on Avid.

I've seen him curse and kick the mac and FCP plenty of times to know the "myth" of Mac and FCP stability.

We've just about decided that the only thing keeping computers in general from killing us all... is their lack of opposable digits.

But it's coming.... just wait and see....

Jesse Bekas · July 14th, 2004, 11:39 PM

I have used a MAC for Protools, and that dang system crashed constantly. Now, I wasn't in charge of keeping it running smoothly, but I couldn't have if I wanted to. With the PC I could because I know the system well (although I haven't had a crash more than two or three times in over 2 years using XP) . That was a big reason that I stuck with it, and all my hardware\peripherals have run fine as plug and play. Also, I recently got a Hyperthreaded P4 PC system which Premiere Pro is configured for. I like the PC for the reason that I know it and it consistently performs for me. If you learn you're system and take care of it properly, you shouldn't get bogged down in spyware and viruses. Like everybody says, I don't want this thread to be a MAC vs. PC rant, but I'm really sick of MAC users telling buyers on the fence that PC's are bad for multi-media. They're pretty much equal now. Use some programs (multimedia, office, etc...) and decide what you like, then get the best system you can afford, and I'm sure you'll be happy. Adobe and Avid make really great suites now that cover all your multimedia needs.

Ed Liew · July 15th, 2004, 05:43 AM

sorry for causing such a feud with my enquiry. i hve been editing with pc since the adobe premiere version 4. and honestly, it has deliver pretty well as long as the project is not to heavy with layers. constantly reminding myself to save is a must, file get corrupted does happen. in other word, pc really have it down side when it come to video editing.
reason why i posted this question was, i need to know how stable and fast mac is in video editing.
guys, appreciate all the help.

ed

Joe Garnero · July 15th, 2004, 06:40 AM

Well like the humans we are; we become passionate about our choices. This debate is no different than the 24p 60i and filmic look debates all over this board. It is an interesting read.

I use both: XP at work and MAC at home. My profession is software development for embedded controls while my hobbies include photography and beginning video. I've always enjoyed the graphic arts and have long found the MAC to be my choice.

The one major benefit to the MAC is that I have Virtual PC installed running Win 2000, Win 95 AND XP. In this program I can run all the PC software I need, that is not available for MAC. Admittedly these PC programs run considerably slower than natively, but they are seldom used, stop-gap, applications.

So pick the software you want to sit behind every day and buy the MAC version ;)

Pat Chaney · July 15th, 2004, 12:33 PM

You're right Joe; the PC vs Mac debate will get resolved just as soon as we all agree on which is the best religion :-)

I converted to the church of Apple a while ago, and now have three Macs in the family. I'm very happy with FCP, but I'm sure there are PC apps that do an equally good job. In any case I would guess that most people are constrained far more by their ability, experience and creativity than by their choice of platform or NLE application.

I'll stick with the virus-free rock-solid OSX and the pure style of the current Mac range. The small extra cost is well worth it for me. However, I'd say that the most important thing is to consider the options and make an informed choice.

Dylan Couper · July 15th, 2004, 08:57 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Jeff Donald : Dylan, if I use your logic to buy an auto, then I definitely want to stay away from BMW and Mercedes. Combined, they make up less than 5% of the market. -->>>

Jeff
That falls under a different rule of mine:
"buy the sexiest machine you can find".

These days, when I realized that the tool doesn't matter as much as how you apply it, I just buy the sexiest equipment out there.
If there was a Mac with a custom case cooler than my matching black/silver PC cases with transparent/blue neon details (and all matching black equipment), I might own a Mac.

PS, if you wanted reliability, I'd go for a Honda over a Merc or Beemer anyday. ;)

Steve Nunez · July 18th, 2004, 12:24 PM

My $.02, I've used both Mac and PC's and the Mac is my machine of choice.....super stable and everything just works as it should.

In the past I've had problems with pc's not working the way it should have.....I don't want to get into details but the Mac has proven to myself and convert friends the machine of choice...and we don't miss anything the pc realm has to offer.

I vote Mac for video editing.

(I know it's not much of a concrete sway- but it's just my 2 cents)

Jesse Bekas · July 18th, 2004, 03:44 PM

OSX for MAC is obviously very stable, and the MAC OS has been stable for awhile, but ever since Win 2000 Pro, Windows has been very stable as well. That's almost 4 years now of stable OS's on the PC. I really think that with the PC attaining the stability of a MAC, the larger PC software library, and lower price, the PC is a better choice. With the PC you obviously have to be responsible with it (don't let the kids play internet games on your NLE system, use a firewall, don't just install every program you get your hands on, etc...). A lot of the problems associated with the PC were due to the older , less stable Windows OS's, but now if you have a problem with a PC, more often than not it's the users fault.

July 14th, 2004, 08:22 PM	#16
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Dylan, if I use your logic to buy an auto, then I definitely want to stay away from BMW and Mercedes. Combined, they make up less than 5% of the market. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 15th, 2004, 08:57 PM	#23
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	<<<-- Originally posted by Jeff Donald : Dylan, if I use your logic to buy an auto, then I definitely want to stay away from BMW and Mercedes. Combined, they make up less than 5% of the market. -->>> Jeff That falls under a different rule of mine: "buy the sexiest machine you can find". These days, when I realized that the tool doesn't matter as much as how you apply it, I just buy the sexiest equipment out there. If there was a Mac with a custom case cooler than my matching black/silver PC cases with transparent/blue neon details (and all matching black equipment), I might own a Mac. PS, if you wanted reliability, I'd go for a Honda over a Merc or Beemer anyday. ;) __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

July 18th, 2004, 12:24 PM	#24
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	My $.02, I've used both Mac and PC's and the Mac is my machine of choice.....super stable and everything just works as it should. In the past I've had problems with pc's not working the way it should have.....I don't want to get into details but the Mac has proven to myself and convert friends the machine of choice...and we don't miss anything the pc realm has to offer. I vote Mac for video editing. (I know it's not much of a concrete sway- but it's just my 2 cents) __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com

July 14th, 2004, 08:40 PM	#18
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	Yup, Avid will run on PC or Mac. For what its worth. In the shop where I work, the boss sits in front of a Mac, cutting on FCP and I sit in front of a turnkey PC cutting on Avid. I've seen him curse and kick the mac and FCP plenty of times to know the "myth" of Mac and FCP stability. We've just about decided that the only thing keeping computers in general from killing us all... is their lack of opposable digits. But it's coming.... just wait and see....

July 14th, 2004, 11:39 PM	#19
Jesse Bekas Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ridgefield Park, New Jersey, USA Posts: 572	I have used a MAC for Protools, and that dang system crashed constantly. Now, I wasn't in charge of keeping it running smoothly, but I couldn't have if I wanted to. With the PC I could because I know the system well (although I haven't had a crash more than two or three times in over 2 years using XP) . That was a big reason that I stuck with it, and all my hardware\peripherals have run fine as plug and play. Also, I recently got a Hyperthreaded P4 PC system which Premiere Pro is configured for. I like the PC for the reason that I know it and it consistently performs for me. If you learn you're system and take care of it properly, you shouldn't get bogged down in spyware and viruses. Like everybody says, I don't want this thread to be a MAC vs. PC rant, but I'm really sick of MAC users telling buyers on the fence that PC's are bad for multi-media. They're pretty much equal now. Use some programs (multimedia, office, etc...) and decide what you like, then get the best system you can afford, and I'm sure you'll be happy. Adobe and Avid make really great suites now that cover all your multimedia needs.

July 15th, 2004, 05:43 AM	#20
Ed Liew Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Malaysia Posts: 226	sorry for causing such a feud with my enquiry. i hve been editing with pc since the adobe premiere version 4. and honestly, it has deliver pretty well as long as the project is not to heavy with layers. constantly reminding myself to save is a must, file get corrupted does happen. in other word, pc really have it down side when it come to video editing. reason why i posted this question was, i need to know how stable and fast mac is in video editing. guys, appreciate all the help. ed

July 15th, 2004, 06:40 AM	#21
Joe Garnero Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Woodstock, GA Posts: 60	Well like the humans we are; we become passionate about our choices. This debate is no different than the 24p 60i and filmic look debates all over this board. It is an interesting read. I use both: XP at work and MAC at home. My profession is software development for embedded controls while my hobbies include photography and beginning video. I've always enjoyed the graphic arts and have long found the MAC to be my choice. The one major benefit to the MAC is that I have Virtual PC installed running Win 2000, Win 95 AND XP. In this program I can run all the PC software I need, that is not available for MAC. Admittedly these PC programs run considerably slower than natively, but they are seldom used, stop-gap, applications. So pick the software you want to sit behind every day and buy the MAC version ;)

July 15th, 2004, 12:33 PM	#22
Pat Chaney Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Berkshire, UK Posts: 107	You're right Joe; the PC vs Mac debate will get resolved just as soon as we all agree on which is the best religion :-) I converted to the church of Apple a while ago, and now have three Macs in the family. I'm very happy with FCP, but I'm sure there are PC apps that do an equally good job. In any case I would guess that most people are constrained far more by their ability, experience and creativity than by their choice of platform or NLE application. I'll stick with the virus-free rock-solid OSX and the pure style of the current Mac range. The small extra cost is well worth it for me. However, I'd say that the most important thing is to consider the options and make an informed choice.

July 18th, 2004, 03:44 PM	#25
Jesse Bekas Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ridgefield Park, New Jersey, USA Posts: 572	OSX for MAC is obviously very stable, and the MAC OS has been stable for awhile, but ever since Win 2000 Pro, Windows has been very stable as well. That's almost 4 years now of stable OS's on the PC. I really think that with the PC attaining the stability of a MAC, the larger PC software library, and lower price, the PC is a better choice. With the PC you obviously have to be responsible with it (don't let the kids play internet games on your NLE system, use a firewall, don't just install every program you get your hands on, etc...). A lot of the problems associated with the PC were due to the older , less stable Windows OS's, but now if you have a problem with a PC, more often than not it's the users fault.