Is PAL supposed to look like this?! at DVinfo.net

Glen Elliott · November 14th, 2004, 10:16 PM

I viewed some PAL footage out to my external monitor and the image looks bizzare. The best way I can describe it is the way a CRT looks when it's refresh rate is set really low. The image looked very stroby, especially in the whites, and bright areas. It was almost painfull on the eyes to look at.

I'm outputting the PAL signal via my NLE (Vegas 5) to a Canopus ADVC100, to a Sony Multiformat Production Monitor (PVM-14C5/1).

My NTSC footage looks fine- any idea what would cause my PAL footage to look like this?

Tony Hall · November 14th, 2004, 10:33 PM

Is your monitor set to PAL mode? My monitor doesn't automatically detect which format it's getting.

Glen Elliott · November 14th, 2004, 10:35 PM

Mine does. I even checked and when it's recieving a PAL signal it says "PAL 50i" under the status menu.

Kyle Ringin · November 14th, 2004, 11:46 PM

Are you applying some effects to the footage? If Vegas is doing realtime effects it mightn't be able to keep up and you might be only getting 15fps or so (it will still output 50i to the convertor/monitor).

Try a prerender if this is the case.

Glen Elliott · November 14th, 2004, 11:57 PM

No, raw footage untouched. PAL project, PAL footage.

Rob Lohman · November 15th, 2004, 10:37 AM

It's hard to say ofcourse without access to the footage. But here
in Europe we have no problems with PAL like you are describing.
Perhaps the monitor is not doing a good enough job converting
the power cycles to match the PAL signal or something?

November 14th, 2004, 10:16 PM	#1
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Is PAL supposed to look like this?! I viewed some PAL footage out to my external monitor and the image looks bizzare. The best way I can describe it is the way a CRT looks when it's refresh rate is set really low. The image looked very stroby, especially in the whites, and bright areas. It was almost painfull on the eyes to look at. I'm outputting the PAL signal via my NLE (Vegas 5) to a Canopus ADVC100, to a Sony Multiformat Production Monitor (PVM-14C5/1). My NTSC footage looks fine- any idea what would cause my PAL footage to look like this?

November 14th, 2004, 10:33 PM	#2
Tony Hall Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: springfield, OH Posts: 344	Is your monitor set to PAL mode? My monitor doesn't automatically detect which format it's getting. __________________ Tony "Good taste is the enemy of creativity" - Picasso Blog: http://www.tonyhall.name

November 15th, 2004, 10:37 AM	#6
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	It's hard to say ofcourse without access to the footage. But here in Europe we have no problems with PAL like you are describing. Perhaps the monitor is not doing a good enough job converting the power cycles to match the PAL signal or something? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

November 14th, 2004, 10:35 PM	#3
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Mine does. I even checked and when it's recieving a PAL signal it says "PAL 50i" under the status menu.

November 14th, 2004, 11:46 PM	#4
Kyle Ringin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 241	Are you applying some effects to the footage? If Vegas is doing realtime effects it mightn't be able to keep up and you might be only getting 15fps or so (it will still output 50i to the convertor/monitor). Try a prerender if this is the case.

November 14th, 2004, 11:57 PM	#5
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	No, raw footage untouched. PAL project, PAL footage.