Need a hand.. something I shot at DVinfo.net

Luie Dalmasy Jr. · January 9th, 2010, 09:40 PM

So I had a friend hold my camera while I was performing and I was just curious as to how to get rid of some of the blur you see when I'm breaking. (breakdancing? lol)

I don't mind it too much but I was wondering if anyone had any tips.
I think maybe because it was shot on 24p mode?

I have a Sony FX1000

check it out here.

PS. It was edited a little because it has to be 3 minutes or less for this contest I entered.

YouTube - 10zero - Rock the Roxy contest video

Chris Soucy · January 9th, 2010, 10:28 PM

I could be wrong (it has been known to happen) but as a guess I'd say a combination of that 24p shooting mode and a too slow shutter speed for the action going on.

I can't see any way to fix what you already have, if you go through it frame by frame I think you'll find all the action shots have smeared, basically unfixable.

For future shoots, either get some more lights so the shutter speed can be increased or bump up the gain, tho' that comes at the expense of more noise.

24p sounds great in theory, but for fast action it really doesn't cut the mustard, try 60i next time.

All IMHO, of course.

CS

Andrew Smith · January 10th, 2010, 09:07 AM

If possible, add more light. This enables you to have a faster shutter speed on the camera and hence cleaner individual frames.

Andrew

Jim Snow · January 10th, 2010, 11:03 AM

Take the time to develop an understanding of the technical aspects of shooting modes. When you have a good understanding, you will be better equipped to make appropriate choices. It's not a matter of selecting the "in thing". 24P is one of the shooting modes that has become "fashionable" in some circles. There are some groupie camp followers who think if they don't shoot exclusively in 24P they are at risk of rejection by the Gods of video - er uh, excuse me; I believe cinema is the operative word.

24P doesn't shoot fast motion well. When you compound it with a slow shutter for low light, you will have some lousy looking footage of break dancing. Just as professional musicians don't always play in the key of C, professional videographers don't always play in the "key" of 24P.

Robert M Wright · January 10th, 2010, 12:03 PM

If the lighting was as dim as it looks like it might have been, a higher shutter speed could make for a far noisier image (and certainly a more strobe like effect). Also, for YouTube video, less blur, in the portions with really fast motion, could result in some pretty obnoxious blockiness. Freeze some of those frames and there is already notable blockiness. With less blur, blockiness could easily become very apparent played back in real-time. Shot at 60i, with 1/60 shutter, and uploaded to YouTube, that same clip could look like just a noisy, strobing, blocky, utter mess.

January 9th, 2010, 09:40 PM	#1
Luie Dalmasy Jr. New Boot Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North Hollywood, California Posts: 19	Need a hand.. something I shot So I had a friend hold my camera while I was performing and I was just curious as to how to get rid of some of the blur you see when I'm breaking. (breakdancing? lol) I don't mind it too much but I was wondering if anyone had any tips. I think maybe because it was shot on 24p mode? I have a Sony FX1000 check it out here. PS. It was edited a little because it has to be 3 minutes or less for this contest I entered. YouTube - 10zero - Rock the Roxy contest video

January 9th, 2010, 10:28 PM	#2
Chris Soucy Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairfield, Dunedin, New Zealand Posts: 3,682 Images: 18	Hi Luie.............. I could be wrong (it has been known to happen) but as a guess I'd say a combination of that 24p shooting mode and a too slow shutter speed for the action going on. I can't see any way to fix what you already have, if you go through it frame by frame I think you'll find all the action shots have smeared, basically unfixable. For future shoots, either get some more lights so the shutter speed can be increased or bump up the gain, tho' that comes at the expense of more noise. 24p sounds great in theory, but for fast action it really doesn't cut the mustard, try 60i next time. All IMHO, of course. CS

January 10th, 2010, 09:07 AM	#3
Andrew Smith Equal Opportunity Offender Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,015	If possible, add more light. This enables you to have a faster shutter speed on the camera and hence cleaner individual frames. Andrew

January 10th, 2010, 11:03 AM	#4
Jim Snow Trustee Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 1,104	Take the time to develop an understanding of the technical aspects of shooting modes. When you have a good understanding, you will be better equipped to make appropriate choices. It's not a matter of selecting the "in thing". 24P is one of the shooting modes that has become "fashionable" in some circles. There are some groupie camp followers who think if they don't shoot exclusively in 24P they are at risk of rejection by the Gods of video - er uh, excuse me; I believe cinema is the operative word. 24P doesn't shoot fast motion well. When you compound it with a slow shutter for low light, you will have some lousy looking footage of break dancing. Just as professional musicians don't always play in the key of C, professional videographers don't always play in the "key" of 24P.

January 10th, 2010, 12:03 PM	#5
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	If the lighting was as dim as it looks like it might have been, a higher shutter speed could make for a far noisier image (and certainly a more strobe like effect). Also, for YouTube video, less blur, in the portions with really fast motion, could result in some pretty obnoxious blockiness. Freeze some of those frames and there is already notable blockiness. With less blur, blockiness could easily become very apparent played back in real-time. Shot at 60i, with 1/60 shutter, and uploaded to YouTube, that same clip could look like just a noisy, strobing, blocky, utter mess.