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Old September 5th, 2006, 04:52 AM   #1
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My 2nd music video

Check it out and leave your comments PLEASE
http://www.havefunvisuals.com/ori.avi
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Old September 5th, 2006, 03:11 PM   #2
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Awesome

Awesome video.
What camera, filter and adapter you use on the camera?
Also what editing software you use.
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Old September 5th, 2006, 03:44 PM   #3
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Thanks Saul,
Its Sony VX-2100 + letus35a
Editing - Adobe Premiere 1.5
Colors and stuff - AfterFX

Is there anything you liked/disliked about the video?
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Old September 5th, 2006, 04:59 PM   #4
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I liked the sharpness you achieved and the colors look good. However, I must say that the concept of the video(you know-the running through the forest, the fish eye shots of the band..etc) is a tired cliché, especially here in america, so that didn't impress me. I also detected a considerable bit of vignetting. I wonder if there's software that could smooth that out. Overall, the dynamics of the video are good.
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Old September 5th, 2006, 05:19 PM   #5
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The concept of the video was the bands idea and I had to make it their way.
The vignetting = letus + 17mm Canon FD lens, which has an aperture of 4.0

What could I do to make it look better?
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Old September 5th, 2006, 11:34 PM   #6
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Hmm I liked the vignetting! (I also like Holga photography.) There's nothing wrong with vignetting in my opinion.

Considering that was only your second video, that was pretty impressive. One thing you can try out is different concepts for your video.... maybe look towards directors like Michel Gondry for inspiration (i.e. Cibo Matto - Sugar Water is my favorite video).
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Old September 6th, 2006, 02:45 AM   #7
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To me, vignetting is acceptable only when it's a part of the look.
Concept was not mine, hopefully I can come up with something more original.
Thanks for the comments everyone, now gimme some mo'!
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Old September 6th, 2006, 08:22 AM   #8
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The vignetting in this video worked because it was applied with intelligence, consistently; it was a natural complement to the really distorted wide images. When vignetting or any other effect is used as a gimmick, or a crutch, then I don't care for it; but that was not the case in this video.

Another thing about this video that I appreciate is the consistency of the images. From one shot to the next, the contrast, colors, etc. are consistent and you have a couple distinct looks within the video; the saturated, cartoony band footage and the "sucked-out" colors of the narrative B-roll. There are some nice quick edits, some unpredictable camera movements and snap zooms to keep it interesting.

I think you pulled off what you were going for, the result is a video that works. This is one of those situations where the video is better than the song.
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Old September 6th, 2006, 11:36 AM   #9
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Thanks for the comments, Benjamin
Are there things you disliked video-wise?
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Old September 8th, 2006, 04:00 PM   #10
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Old September 9th, 2006, 09:08 PM   #11
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Well, if you seek constructive criticism, I think Jaadgy was accurate that the fish-angle band shots and running through the forest stuff is somewhat familiar- though I know you said it wasn't your concept. Hopefully you were compensated well to shoot someone else's concept of a video.

Otherwise I'd say you could make it a little more balanced visually by throwing in a few longer takes, steadier shots. Or you could increase the fast editing, snap zooms, etc. even more, to make it even less coherent in places; it doesn't seem like realism was a priority in your cinematography anyway. I mean that in a good way. These are just some ideas for ways to tweak it.

You can always change something and improve on a work, if you are serious about the craft; but this video is pretty strong for what it is.
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Old September 10th, 2006, 01:32 PM   #12
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Thanks alot Ben, the main reason for the wide band shots was that the day before the shoot I got my new 17mm non-fisheye wideangle Canon FD lens.
And yes, Ive instantly fell in love with it.
I'm just starting to make videos, so I would like to receive as many reviews as possible. Thanks
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Old September 10th, 2006, 03:50 PM   #13
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It rocked in every way!

I thought some of the cuts could have been timed better to the beat of the music. There are a lot of cuts so maybe you were not always trying to go to the beat.

Fantastic job.

How did you get such DOF? Was it with the cam? Or in post?
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Old September 10th, 2006, 05:24 PM   #14
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Thanks Richard,
Cuts. The cuts, to me, dont have to be in synch with the beat all the time.
It can get annoying/boring/repetetive pretty soon.
Anyway, the DOF = 35mm adapter (Letus35a), the camera was Sony VX2100.

I just want to get bands from around the world to see my videos and maybe get me to shoot a video for them. Where (or how) do I do that?

Thanks
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