My 2nd music video at DVinfo.net

Ivan Egorov · September 5th, 2006, 04:52 AM

Check it out and leave your comments PLEASE
http://www.havefunvisuals.com/ori.avi

Saul Kongvongsay · September 5th, 2006, 03:11 PM

Awesome video.
What camera, filter and adapter you use on the camera?
Also what editing software you use.

Ivan Egorov · September 5th, 2006, 03:44 PM

Thanks Saul,
Its Sony VX-2100 + letus35a
Editing - Adobe Premiere 1.5
Colors and stuff - AfterFX

Is there anything you liked/disliked about the video?

Jaadgy Akanni · September 5th, 2006, 04:59 PM

I liked the sharpness you achieved and the colors look good. However, I must say that the concept of the video(you know-the running through the forest, the fish eye shots of the band..etc) is a tired cliché, especially here in america, so that didn't impress me. I also detected a considerable bit of vignetting. I wonder if there's software that could smooth that out. Overall, the dynamics of the video are good.

Ivan Egorov · September 5th, 2006, 05:19 PM

The concept of the video was the bands idea and I had to make it their way.
The vignetting = letus + 17mm Canon FD lens, which has an aperture of 4.0

What could I do to make it look better?

Glenn Chan · September 5th, 2006, 11:34 PM

Hmm I liked the vignetting! (I also like Holga photography.) There's nothing wrong with vignetting in my opinion.

Considering that was only your second video, that was pretty impressive. One thing you can try out is different concepts for your video.... maybe look towards directors like Michel Gondry for inspiration (i.e. Cibo Matto - Sugar Water is my favorite video).

Ivan Egorov · September 6th, 2006, 02:45 AM

To me, vignetting is acceptable only when it's a part of the look.
Concept was not mine, hopefully I can come up with something more original.
Thanks for the comments everyone, now gimme some mo'!

Benjamin Hill · September 6th, 2006, 08:22 AM

The vignetting in this video worked because it was applied with intelligence, consistently; it was a natural complement to the really distorted wide images. When vignetting or any other effect is used as a gimmick, or a crutch, then I don't care for it; but that was not the case in this video.

Another thing about this video that I appreciate is the consistency of the images. From one shot to the next, the contrast, colors, etc. are consistent and you have a couple distinct looks within the video; the saturated, cartoony band footage and the "sucked-out" colors of the narrative B-roll. There are some nice quick edits, some unpredictable camera movements and snap zooms to keep it interesting.

I think you pulled off what you were going for, the result is a video that works. This is one of those situations where the video is better than the song.

Ivan Egorov · September 6th, 2006, 11:36 AM

Thanks for the comments, Benjamin
Are there things you disliked video-wise?

Ivan Egorov · September 8th, 2006, 04:00 PM

Anyone else?

Benjamin Hill · September 9th, 2006, 09:08 PM

Well, if you seek constructive criticism, I think Jaadgy was accurate that the fish-angle band shots and running through the forest stuff is somewhat familiar- though I know you said it wasn't your concept. Hopefully you were compensated well to shoot someone else's concept of a video.

Otherwise I'd say you could make it a little more balanced visually by throwing in a few longer takes, steadier shots. Or you could increase the fast editing, snap zooms, etc. even more, to make it even less coherent in places; it doesn't seem like realism was a priority in your cinematography anyway. I mean that in a good way. These are just some ideas for ways to tweak it.

You can always change something and improve on a work, if you are serious about the craft; but this video is pretty strong for what it is.

Ivan Egorov · September 10th, 2006, 01:32 PM

Thanks alot Ben, the main reason for the wide band shots was that the day before the shoot I got my new 17mm non-fisheye wideangle Canon FD lens.
And yes, Ive instantly fell in love with it.
I'm just starting to make videos, so I would like to receive as many reviews as possible. Thanks

Richard Zlamany · September 10th, 2006, 03:50 PM

It rocked in every way!

I thought some of the cuts could have been timed better to the beat of the music. There are a lot of cuts so maybe you were not always trying to go to the beat.

Fantastic job.

How did you get such DOF? Was it with the cam? Or in post?

Ivan Egorov · September 10th, 2006, 05:24 PM

Thanks Richard,
Cuts. The cuts, to me, dont have to be in synch with the beat all the time.
It can get annoying/boring/repetetive pretty soon.
Anyway, the DOF = 35mm adapter (Letus35a), the camera was Sony VX2100.

I just want to get bands from around the world to see my videos and maybe get me to shoot a video for them. Where (or how) do I do that?

Thanks

September 5th, 2006, 04:52 AM	#1
Ivan Egorov Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: St. Petersburg, Russia Posts: 46	My 2nd music video Check it out and leave your comments PLEASE http://www.havefunvisuals.com/ori.avi

September 5th, 2006, 03:11 PM	#2
Saul Kongvongsay New Boot Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Music City USA Posts: 8	Awesome Awesome video. What camera, filter and adapter you use on the camera? Also what editing software you use.

September 5th, 2006, 04:59 PM	#4
Jaadgy Akanni Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: new york city Posts: 346	I liked the sharpness you achieved and the colors look good. However, I must say that the concept of the video(you know-the running through the forest, the fish eye shots of the band..etc) is a tired cliché, especially here in america, so that didn't impress me. I also detected a considerable bit of vignetting. I wonder if there's software that could smooth that out. Overall, the dynamics of the video are good. __________________ I will be KING!

September 6th, 2006, 08:22 AM	#8
Benjamin Hill Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Iowa City, Iowa Posts: 670	The vignetting in this video worked because it was applied with intelligence, consistently; it was a natural complement to the really distorted wide images. When vignetting or any other effect is used as a gimmick, or a crutch, then I don't care for it; but that was not the case in this video. Another thing about this video that I appreciate is the consistency of the images. From one shot to the next, the contrast, colors, etc. are consistent and you have a couple distinct looks within the video; the saturated, cartoony band footage and the "sucked-out" colors of the narrative B-roll. There are some nice quick edits, some unpredictable camera movements and snap zooms to keep it interesting. I think you pulled off what you were going for, the result is a video that works. This is one of those situations where the video is better than the song. __________________ youtube.com/benhillmedia linkedin.com/in/benhillmedia

September 9th, 2006, 09:08 PM	#11
Benjamin Hill Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Iowa City, Iowa Posts: 670	Well, if you seek constructive criticism, I think Jaadgy was accurate that the fish-angle band shots and running through the forest stuff is somewhat familiar- though I know you said it wasn't your concept. Hopefully you were compensated well to shoot someone else's concept of a video. Otherwise I'd say you could make it a little more balanced visually by throwing in a few longer takes, steadier shots. Or you could increase the fast editing, snap zooms, etc. even more, to make it even less coherent in places; it doesn't seem like realism was a priority in your cinematography anyway. I mean that in a good way. These are just some ideas for ways to tweak it. You can always change something and improve on a work, if you are serious about the craft; but this video is pretty strong for what it is. __________________ youtube.com/benhillmedia linkedin.com/in/benhillmedia

September 5th, 2006, 03:44 PM	#3
Ivan Egorov Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: St. Petersburg, Russia Posts: 46	Thanks Saul, Its Sony VX-2100 + letus35a Editing - Adobe Premiere 1.5 Colors and stuff - AfterFX Is there anything you liked/disliked about the video?

September 5th, 2006, 05:19 PM	#5
Ivan Egorov Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: St. Petersburg, Russia Posts: 46	The concept of the video was the bands idea and I had to make it their way. The vignetting = letus + 17mm Canon FD lens, which has an aperture of 4.0 What could I do to make it look better?

September 5th, 2006, 11:34 PM	#6
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	Hmm I liked the vignetting! (I also like Holga photography.) There's nothing wrong with vignetting in my opinion. Considering that was only your second video, that was pretty impressive. One thing you can try out is different concepts for your video.... maybe look towards directors like Michel Gondry for inspiration (i.e. Cibo Matto - Sugar Water is my favorite video).

September 6th, 2006, 02:45 AM	#7
Ivan Egorov Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: St. Petersburg, Russia Posts: 46	To me, vignetting is acceptable only when it's a part of the look. Concept was not mine, hopefully I can come up with something more original. Thanks for the comments everyone, now gimme some mo'!

September 6th, 2006, 11:36 AM	#9
Ivan Egorov Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: St. Petersburg, Russia Posts: 46	Thanks for the comments, Benjamin Are there things you disliked video-wise?

September 8th, 2006, 04:00 PM	#10
Ivan Egorov Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: St. Petersburg, Russia Posts: 46	Anyone else?

September 10th, 2006, 01:32 PM	#12
Ivan Egorov Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: St. Petersburg, Russia Posts: 46	Thanks alot Ben, the main reason for the wide band shots was that the day before the shoot I got my new 17mm non-fisheye wideangle Canon FD lens. And yes, Ive instantly fell in love with it. I'm just starting to make videos, so I would like to receive as many reviews as possible. Thanks

September 10th, 2006, 03:50 PM	#13
Richard Zlamany Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamden CT Posts: 470	It rocked in every way! I thought some of the cuts could have been timed better to the beat of the music. There are a lot of cuts so maybe you were not always trying to go to the beat. Fantastic job. How did you get such DOF? Was it with the cam? Or in post?

September 10th, 2006, 05:24 PM	#14
Ivan Egorov Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: St. Petersburg, Russia Posts: 46	Thanks Richard, Cuts. The cuts, to me, dont have to be in synch with the beat all the time. It can get annoying/boring/repetetive pretty soon. Anyway, the DOF = 35mm adapter (Letus35a), the camera was Sony VX2100. I just want to get bands from around the world to see my videos and maybe get me to shoot a video for them. Where (or how) do I do that? Thanks