Betacam question at DVinfo.net

Mike Moncrief · June 28th, 2007, 05:44 AM

Hi,

Here is an old school question for some of you who may have worked with/or still are working with Betacam.. Specificly the Sony 1800 model record deck..
I know it records vidoe in the 4:3 aspect ratio.. but does it have a way to record 16:9 standard definition?? I know you can record a letterboxed 4;3 version(becuse I did it yesterday) but I still do not know(I doubt it does) if it can record 16:9 standard def, kind of like we have in the DV world???

Thanks for any response..

Mike Moncrief

Don Bloom · June 28th, 2007, 06:21 AM

If it can I've never found the way to. I don't think it's capable but like yourself I might have missed it.

Don

Mike Moncrief · June 28th, 2007, 08:56 AM

Hello,

OK Thanks, thats what i figured.. Know anything about Digi-Beta?? Is it the same as far as just doing 4:3 ?? no 16:9 standard def.???

I thin the Digi-Beta deck model # is DVW-A500..

Mike Moncrief

Paul R Johnson · June 28th, 2007, 09:21 AM

Analogue video doesn't really bother that much about ratios - all it needs is the correct number of fields, frames and sync. The actual data recorded isn't important. It's the display end where things get adjusted. So if you have a beta recording, letterboxed, it's still a 4:3 recording in the conventional sense, just that black is recorded on the unused frame lines. Modern TVs detect the black and do the appropriate adjustment if the screen is widescreen. When you work in the digital domain, the pixel width and height is part of the spec - but in analogue it isn't.

Glenn Chan · June 28th, 2007, 10:04 PM

Yes you can record an anamorphic image onto dbeta (as you can with every other 4:3 format). You can record a 16:9 image squished to fit a 4:3 frame.

I dont believe dbeta has any method of flagging the material as anamorphic... you can put a sticker on the tape (or its case), label it as anamorphic, and mention in the slate that it's anamorphic.

June 28th, 2007, 05:44 AM	#1
Mike Moncrief Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: orlando florida Posts: 426	Betacam question Hi, Here is an old school question for some of you who may have worked with/or still are working with Betacam.. Specificly the Sony 1800 model record deck.. I know it records vidoe in the 4:3 aspect ratio.. but does it have a way to record 16:9 standard definition?? I know you can record a letterboxed 4;3 version(becuse I did it yesterday) but I still do not know(I doubt it does) if it can record 16:9 standard def, kind of like we have in the DV world??? Thanks for any response.. Mike Moncrief __________________ Mike Moncrief mikemoncrief@gmail.com www.themikemoncrief.com

June 28th, 2007, 08:56 AM	#3
Mike Moncrief Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: orlando florida Posts: 426	Hello, OK Thanks, thats what i figured.. Know anything about Digi-Beta?? Is it the same as far as just doing 4:3 ?? no 16:9 standard def.??? I thin the Digi-Beta deck model # is DVW-A500.. Mike Moncrief __________________ Mike Moncrief mikemoncrief@gmail.com www.themikemoncrief.com

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June 28th, 2007, 06:21 AM	#2
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	If it can I've never found the way to. I don't think it's capable but like yourself I might have missed it. Don

June 28th, 2007, 09:21 AM	#4
Paul R Johnson Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lowestoft - UK Posts: 4,015	Analogue video doesn't really bother that much about ratios - all it needs is the correct number of fields, frames and sync. The actual data recorded isn't important. It's the display end where things get adjusted. So if you have a beta recording, letterboxed, it's still a 4:3 recording in the conventional sense, just that black is recorded on the unused frame lines. Modern TVs detect the black and do the appropriate adjustment if the screen is widescreen. When you work in the digital domain, the pixel width and height is part of the spec - but in analogue it isn't.

June 28th, 2007, 10:04 PM	#5
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	Yes you can record an anamorphic image onto dbeta (as you can with every other 4:3 format). You can record a 16:9 image squished to fit a 4:3 frame. I dont believe dbeta has any method of flagging the material as anamorphic... you can put a sticker on the tape (or its case), label it as anamorphic, and mention in the slate that it's anamorphic.