Tommy, tell us about your new GS100

Frank Granovski · December 28th, 2003, 05:53 PM

It's dusty where you live? Black mamba's shedding it's skin? Keep a cleaning cloth handy. :-)) By the way, nice frame grabs.

Tell us more about the GS100. I was also curious how the GS100 has a better widescreen than the MX5/DV953. I thought their CCDs are the same, or have the same about of video effective pixels.

Young Lee · December 28th, 2003, 07:56 PM

**60i frame grab uprezzed to HD using S-Spline

http://www.dvuser.co.kr/zboard/data/gallery/test3.jpg

The frame grab would've looked better if I had used DVFilmMaker.

Tommy Haupfear · December 28th, 2003, 10:38 PM

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It's dusty where you live?

Its mostly fingerprints but yes the cleaning cloth is always close by. If only the Black Mamba had a magnesium alloy body like my Canon 10D.

The widescreen issue is quite puzzling. While both the DV953 and GS100 have 800k CCDs with 640k video effective pixels it appears that the DV953 (and MX5000) in 16:9 do not take full advantage of the entire CCD allotment. This would explain the higher resolution and wider angle of view with the GS100.

I stumbled across a Taiwan website that claims that the GS100 has a full CCD resolution of 998X797 and that the 16:9 mode (not cinema) utilizes only 934x576 of the CCD and then extracts a 720x460 frame which requires a 1.04 vertical zoom to achieve 720x480. Your guess is as good as mine as to why they just don't take a 720x480 frame from the 934x576 original capture.

All along I've sported the photo of the MX500 (PAL) 16:9 mode from the Power Point slide show and related it to the NTSC MX5000 and DV953 but now I believe there are differences other than the obvious format resolutions of NTSC vs. PAL. The Japanese Panasonic site refers to the MX5000 as using 876x540 frame from within the full CCD. Then the MX5000 extracts a 720x360 frame which requires a 1.3x vertical zoom to achieve 720x480.

Panasonic's Japanese website on GS100 Wide Mode

http://panasonic.jp/dvc/gs100k/ki_wide.html

NV-MX500 (PAL) 16:9 Mode Power Point slide extraction

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-...IYZP-1-1-5.jpg

Translated Taiwan GS100 Info page

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babel...p=zh_en&tt=url

Massive photo of my GS100K

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-...00profile2.jpg

Frank Granovski · December 28th, 2003, 11:12 PM

Thanks for those links. So the DV953's wide screen is not the same as the MX5000's? I'll have to snoop around in these links.

My buddy bought a EOS D10 (black beauty), along with 3 Canon lenses:

24 - 85 1:3.5 - 4.5 (black)
20 - 40 (black)
EF 70 - 200mm 1:4 (white in color)

I played around with it the other day---Oh..., so..., nice! :-))

Yow Cheong Hoe · December 29th, 2003, 12:30 AM

You mean 10D? Yes, a very good camera, indeed.

A very sexy name, too "Tandy".

Tommy Haupfear · December 29th, 2003, 11:50 AM

Tandy?

I'm using the Canon 28-135mm IS USM on my 10D but what I really want is the Canon EF17-40mm f4.0L USM.

Yow Cheong Hoe · December 30th, 2003, 12:53 AM

Maybe "Tendy" or "Tandee". There are also the "Wandee" and "Wandee-Ess" to look forward to!

Certainly sounds better than "Dee-Wan-Hun-Dred" or "Ess-Too-Pro"! (Imagine "Ess-Too-Pro", spelt with an "A" instead of an "E"!)

But I do prefer Fuji's SuperCCD colours and dynamic range.

Sorry for all the crap in the thread, I am also pretty keen on photography.

Frank Granovski · December 30th, 2003, 04:38 AM

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Sorry for all the crap in the thread, I am also pretty keen on photography.

No worries. I've been busy taking pics all day and evening in 3 locations, and I just got back trying to catch up on my e-mails and the posts. I'm was using Konica VX200 with 100mm lens/skylight and strong Nikon flash---boy, my head hurts. :-))

PS: I love VX200 print film---the blacks are deep, browns are now and colors are wow. Nice fine grain too. :-))

Now back to Tommy's GS100 black mamba, hopefully with some beef, or---?

Tommy Haupfear · January 3rd, 2004, 11:59 PM

There appears to be no Gain Up mode on the GS100. I remember this feature referenced a lot for the DV953/MX5000/MX500. Can anyone else confirm this?

On a side note! Congratulations to NASA and the successful landing of the Mars Exploration Rover (MER).

Rumor has it that a Black Mamba is perched atop this Matsushita Equipped Rover (MER).

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-...ckMERMamba.jpg

Patricia Kim · January 4th, 2004, 02:57 AM

If you're in manual and press the wheel just behind the mega ois button, shutter speed and gain will show up on your screen or in your viewfinder. You adjust by using the press and rotate features of the wheel. Hope that's what you're looking for.

Frank Granovski · January 4th, 2004, 03:22 AM

Tommy, how did they manage that? I thought that the GS100 doesn't have a lanc connection. :-))

Allan Rejoso · January 4th, 2004, 03:27 AM

Happy New Year everybody!!! It's nice to be back online (from Tokyo).

Tommy, Gain Up mode (digital effect) of the MX5K has been replaced (essentially) by Nameraka (Smooth) Night Mode.

Been looking forward to reading your impressions on the black mamba.

Patricia Kim · January 4th, 2004, 04:18 PM

Actually, I'm waiting to see how long you keep the gs100 and which cam you upgrade to next!

Allan Rejoso · January 4th, 2004, 05:08 PM

It seems Tommy has tried (bought) every available model with decent widescreen function. So at this moment, his options are to either revert back to one of his previous cams, or keep the GS100K for a while until a new model comes out.

Cheers

Patricia Kim · January 4th, 2004, 05:46 PM

Well, we are waiting for you to tell us about any new models, Allan, so that the rest of us can experience the throes of camcorder envy when Tommy upgrades once again! It's actually kind of nice: every time a new model comes out, I don't have to search around to find out how it holds up to actual use. Not that I could buy, but window shopping gets taken to a new level with the internet.

December 28th, 2003, 07:56 PM	#17
Young Lee Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 268	Is MX5000 HD? :) **60i frame grab uprezzed to HD using S-Spline http://www.dvuser.co.kr/zboard/data/gallery/test3.jpg The frame grab would've looked better if I had used DVFilmMaker.

December 28th, 2003, 05:53 PM	#16
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	It's dusty where you live? Black mamba's shedding it's skin? Keep a cleaning cloth handy. :-)) By the way, nice frame grabs. Tell us more about the GS100. I was also curious how the GS100 has a better widescreen than the MX5/DV953. I thought their CCDs are the same, or have the same about of video effective pixels.

December 28th, 2003, 11:12 PM	#19
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Thanks for those links. So the DV953's wide screen is not the same as the MX5000's? I'll have to snoop around in these links. My buddy bought a EOS D10 (black beauty), along with 3 Canon lenses: 24 - 85 1:3.5 - 4.5 (black) 20 - 40 (black) EF 70 - 200mm 1:4 (white in color) I played around with it the other day---Oh..., so..., nice! :-))

December 29th, 2003, 12:30 AM	#20
Yow Cheong Hoe Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Singapore, Passport: Malaysia Posts: 407	You mean 10D? Yes, a very good camera, indeed. A very sexy name, too "Tandy".

December 29th, 2003, 11:50 AM	#21
Tommy Haupfear Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,415	Tandy? I'm using the Canon 28-135mm IS USM on my 10D but what I really want is the Canon EF17-40mm f4.0L USM.

December 30th, 2003, 12:53 AM	#22
Yow Cheong Hoe Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Singapore, Passport: Malaysia Posts: 407	Maybe "Tendy" or "Tandee". There are also the "Wandee" and "Wandee-Ess" to look forward to! Certainly sounds better than "Dee-Wan-Hun-Dred" or "Ess-Too-Pro"! (Imagine "Ess-Too-Pro", spelt with an "A" instead of an "E"!) But I do prefer Fuji's SuperCCD colours and dynamic range. Sorry for all the crap in the thread, I am also pretty keen on photography.

January 3rd, 2004, 11:59 PM	#24
Tommy Haupfear Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,415	There appears to be no Gain Up mode on the GS100. I remember this feature referenced a lot for the DV953/MX5000/MX500. Can anyone else confirm this? On a side note! Congratulations to NASA and the successful landing of the Mars Exploration Rover (MER). Rumor has it that a Black Mamba is perched atop this Matsushita Equipped Rover (MER). http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-...ckMERMamba.jpg

January 4th, 2004, 02:57 AM	#25
Patricia Kim Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 453	If you're in manual and press the wheel just behind the mega ois button, shutter speed and gain will show up on your screen or in your viewfinder. You adjust by using the press and rotate features of the wheel. Hope that's what you're looking for.

January 4th, 2004, 03:22 AM	#26
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Tommy, how did they manage that? I thought that the GS100 doesn't have a lanc connection. :-))

January 4th, 2004, 03:27 AM	#27
Allan Rejoso Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 569	Happy New Year everybody!!! It's nice to be back online (from Tokyo). Tommy, Gain Up mode (digital effect) of the MX5K has been replaced (essentially) by Nameraka (Smooth) Night Mode. Been looking forward to reading your impressions on the black mamba.

January 4th, 2004, 04:18 PM	#28
Patricia Kim Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 453	Actually, I'm waiting to see how long you keep the gs100 and which cam you upgrade to next!

January 4th, 2004, 05:08 PM	#29
Allan Rejoso Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 569	It seems Tommy has tried (bought) every available model with decent widescreen function. So at this moment, his options are to either revert back to one of his previous cams, or keep the GS100K for a while until a new model comes out. Cheers

January 4th, 2004, 05:46 PM	#30
Patricia Kim Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 453	Well, we are waiting for you to tell us about any new models, Allan, so that the rest of us can experience the throes of camcorder envy when Tommy upgrades once again! It's actually kind of nice: every time a new model comes out, I don't have to search around to find out how it holds up to actual use. Not that I could buy, but window shopping gets taken to a new level with the internet.