Official Black Mamba Pic at DVinfo.net

Frank Granovski · January 21st, 2004, 03:56 AM

Panasonic sent me a picture of the black professional NV-GS100 cam a few weeks back. In the spirit of Fred, I believe he was onto something. For example, the GS100 is black, and the pic they sent me is called, GS100pro.gif. (Note the "pro" after GS100.) Furthermore, you will note in the picture, Pana placed a black-cased FUJI tape next to the Black Mamba, and not a Panasonic tape. What does all this tell you? Well, a number of things:
[list=1][*]the GS100 is a professional cam because it's black[*]FUJI minDV tape is a professional tape because it's black[*]Panasonic uses FUJI tape[*]Fred was correct[/list=1]

Here's the pic: http://www.8palm.com/gs100pro.gif

John Locke · January 21st, 2004, 06:21 AM

I thought professional cameras were red, white, and black.

Tommy Haupfear · January 21st, 2004, 06:30 AM

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I thought professional cameras were red, white, and black.

Red, White, and Black. No problem.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-...le2(Small).jpg

Adrian Douglas · January 21st, 2004, 07:39 AM

Why would a 'pro' camera have non-standard colour bars?

Tommy Haupfear · January 21st, 2004, 08:22 AM

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Why would a 'pro' camera have non-standard colour bars?

I think you mean non-SMPTE as non-standard is a little too vague. The bars on the DV953 and GS100 are commonly referred to as camera color bars. I would have preferred SMPTE color bars but thats easily fixed with the SD memory cards (and a mix-to-tape).

Does anyone else soley use the SMPTE bars for calibration? For black levels I much prefer a seperate pluge pattern.

http://www.mediacollege.com/images/i...ch/pluge01.gif

Adrian Douglas · January 21st, 2004, 08:58 AM

Yeah I did mean non-SMPTE but as they are the general standard for colour bars I thought it would have been enough. Thanks for clearing it up. The XL/GL series alos have these 'camera bars' but if Panasonic are marketing the camera as 'pro' then you'd think they'd include 'pro' reference.

Dylan Couper · January 21st, 2004, 09:36 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by John Locke : I thought professional cameras were red, white, and black. -->>>

No, the XL1 is only a pro camera when you add a black manual lens. Which may only make it a prosummer camera. Hmm... What colour is the DVX100 again? BLack or dork grey?

Frank Granovski · January 21st, 2004, 01:17 PM

She's black to my eyes. :-))

Nick Kerpchar · January 21st, 2004, 01:53 PM

Frank,
To be a professional camcorder shouldn't it have a handle on the top?

Frank Granovski · January 21st, 2004, 01:59 PM

Well, no. The PD100 didn't have a handle, nor did the AG-EZ1---and they're both black and sold through their pro divisions. Hope this helps. :-))

Michael Gibbons · January 22nd, 2004, 10:47 AM

So all I need to make my cam a professional model is a black magic marker? Do you think nail polish would work better?
Michael

Frank Granovski · January 22nd, 2004, 03:01 PM

Spray-paint. :-))

Note: this post is not intended for the ironically challenged.

Tommy Haupfear · January 22nd, 2004, 03:24 PM

Yep, and eveyone knows that giving your lens a good coat of black spray-paint (flat or glossy) is a great way of identifying stuck pixels on the CCD.

Patricia Kim · January 22nd, 2004, 04:42 PM

Why did they forget to paint the focus ring, which is so close to the lens, black on the model they sent you a photo of, Frank?

Michael Gibbons · January 22nd, 2004, 05:25 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Tommy Haupfear : Yep, and eveyone knows that giving your lens a good coat of black spray-paint (flat or glossy) is a great way of identifying stuck pixels on the CCD. -->>>

You paint the lens directly eh? Wow that's news to me. I hate to think about how many UV filters I've ruined.
I know another guy who does it just by putting his lens cap on. Talk about unprofessional! What a loser.

(Actually, when I shot my first short the (somebody else's) cam had 3 dead pixels. Never noticed until I was doing the edit, and I got to a scene shot in low light. Heh.)

January 21st, 2004, 03:56 AM	#1
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Official Black Mamba Pic Panasonic sent me a picture of the black professional NV-GS100 cam a few weeks back. In the spirit of Fred, I believe he was onto something. For example, the GS100 is black, and the pic they sent me is called, GS100pro.gif. (Note the "pro" after GS100.) Furthermore, you will note in the picture, Pana placed a black-cased FUJI tape next to the Black Mamba, and not a Panasonic tape. What does all this tell you? Well, a number of things: [list=1][]the GS100 is a professional cam because it's black[]FUJI minDV tape is a professional tape because it's black[]Panasonic uses FUJI tape[]Fred was correct[/list=1] Here's the pic: http://www.8palm.com/gs100pro.gif

January 21st, 2004, 06:21 AM	#2
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	I thought professional cameras were red, white, and black. __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

January 21st, 2004, 07:39 AM	#4
Adrian Douglas Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chigasaki, Japan. Posts: 1,660	Why would a 'pro' camera have non-standard colour bars? __________________ Adrian DVInfo.net Search for quick answers Where to buy? From the best in the business...DVInfo.net sponsors

January 21st, 2004, 08:58 AM	#6
Adrian Douglas Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chigasaki, Japan. Posts: 1,660	Yeah I did mean non-SMPTE but as they are the general standard for colour bars I thought it would have been enough. Thanks for clearing it up. The XL/GL series alos have these 'camera bars' but if Panasonic are marketing the camera as 'pro' then you'd think they'd include 'pro' reference. __________________ Adrian DVInfo.net Search for quick answers Where to buy? From the best in the business...DVInfo.net sponsors

January 21st, 2004, 09:36 AM	#7
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	I hope no one takes this thread too seriously <<<-- Originally posted by John Locke : I thought professional cameras were red, white, and black. -->>> No, the XL1 is only a pro camera when you add a black manual lens. Which may only make it a prosummer camera. Hmm... What colour is the DVX100 again? BLack or dork grey? __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

January 21st, 2004, 01:17 PM	#8
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	She's black to my eyes. :-))

January 21st, 2004, 01:53 PM	#9
Nick Kerpchar Major Player Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 211	Frank, To be a professional camcorder shouldn't it have a handle on the top?

January 21st, 2004, 01:59 PM	#10
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Well, no. The PD100 didn't have a handle, nor did the AG-EZ1---and they're both black and sold through their pro divisions. Hope this helps. :-))

January 22nd, 2004, 10:47 AM	#11
Michael Gibbons Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Loveland, Colorado, USA Posts: 292	So all I need to make my cam a professional model is a black magic marker? Do you think nail polish would work better? Michael __________________ " When some wild-eyed, eight foot tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head against a bar room wall, and looks you crooked in the eye, and he asks you if you've payed your dues, well, you just stare that big suker right back in the eye, and you remember what old Jack Burton always says at a time like that, 'Have you paid your dues, Jack? Yes sir, the check is in the mail."

January 22nd, 2004, 03:01 PM	#12
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Spray-paint. :-)) Note: this post is not intended for the ironically challenged.

January 22nd, 2004, 03:24 PM	#13
Tommy Haupfear Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,415	Yep, and eveyone knows that giving your lens a good coat of black spray-paint (flat or glossy) is a great way of identifying stuck pixels on the CCD.

January 22nd, 2004, 04:42 PM	#14
Patricia Kim Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 453	Why did they forget to paint the focus ring, which is so close to the lens, black on the model they sent you a photo of, Frank?

January 22nd, 2004, 05:25 PM	#15
Michael Gibbons Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Loveland, Colorado, USA Posts: 292	<<<-- Originally posted by Tommy Haupfear : Yep, and eveyone knows that giving your lens a good coat of black spray-paint (flat or glossy) is a great way of identifying stuck pixels on the CCD. -->>> You paint the lens directly eh? Wow that's news to me. I hate to think about how many UV filters I've ruined. I know another guy who does it just by putting his lens cap on. Talk about unprofessional! What a loser. (Actually, when I shot my first short the (somebody else's) cam had 3 dead pixels. Never noticed until I was doing the edit, and I got to a scene shot in low light. Heh.) __________________ " When some wild-eyed, eight foot tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head against a bar room wall, and looks you crooked in the eye, and he asks you if you've payed your dues, well, you just stare that big suker right back in the eye, and you remember what old Jack Burton always says at a time like that, 'Have you paid your dues, Jack? Yes sir, the check is in the mail."