Lowlight - DVC30 vs GS400

Peter Jefferson · July 24th, 2004, 08:01 AM

i jus tread on another post that the GS can only pump out 1/60 shutter.. (1/50 in PAL land) and apparently the DVCcan go lower.. now im thinkin if the DVC can handle 1/25 @ 25fps frame mode.. were looking as a closer mactch to teh DVX than i first thought.. that is of course if it can actually do 1/25.. which noone can attest to right now..

so.. a slower shutter, means more light gettin in..
with more light, heres hoping the performance isnt substandard..

Kaku Ito · July 24th, 2004, 08:26 AM

Peter,

No, DVC30 does not have 25fps. With GS100/400, only substitute to the slower shutter speed is the night mode.

Only other choice to do 25fps is Cannon XL2 and XL2 has advantage in hi-res wide (a.k.a anamorphic or 16:9) which you have to buy expensive anamorphic lens with DVX100a and you would loose some brightness.

My main cam would be XL2 when it is available.

<<<-- Originally posted by Peter Jefferson : i jus tread on another post that the GS can only pump out 1/60 shutter.. (1/50 in PAL land) and apparently the DVCcan go lower.. now im thinkin if the DVC can handle 1/25 @ 25fps frame mode.. were looking as a closer mactch to teh DVX than i first thought.. that is of course if it can actually do 1/25.. which noone can attest to right now..

so.. a slower shutter, means more light gettin in..
with more light, heres hoping the performance isnt substandard.. -->>>

Tommy Haupfear · July 24th, 2004, 12:40 PM

Quote:

No, DVC30 does not have 25fps.

A PAL DVC30 would have a 25fps frame mode, correct?

The brochure below mentions slow shutter speeds all the way down to 1/4 on the NTSC DVC30. I'm not sure about PAL DVC30.

Click here for DVC30 brochure PDF

Ron Evans · July 24th, 2004, 04:31 PM

Does the DVC30 have an external audio input for mic ( unbalanced ) and can this be switched to line in? I know that the xlr attachement has this capability. I would prefer to use my small mixer and feed just line to the DVC30. Since the manual isn't up on the Panasonic site yet I have not been able to get all the fine details!!!

Ron Evans

Kaku Ito · July 24th, 2004, 05:41 PM

oops, sorry Tommy, I was talking about NTSC. Not sure about PAL.

<<<-- Originally posted by Tommy Haupfear : A PAL DVC30 would have a 25fps frame mode, correct?

The brochure below mentions slow shutter speeds all the way down to 1/4 on the NTSC DVC30. I'm not sure about PAL DVC30.

Click here for DVC30 brochure PDF -->>>

Peter Jefferson · July 24th, 2004, 10:30 PM

Pal is the same, the only difference is the resolution and frame rate.

one of the selling points of this cam is its frame mode

Joe Amato · July 25th, 2004, 09:10 AM

I was at b&h the other day and my friend in pro video compared the zoom on the dvc-30 to the dvx-100a andhe said its faster and alot smoother plus the low dispersion lens seems sharper that sows that all cams have strength snd eeknesses like tommy said

July 24th, 2004, 08:01 AM	#16
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	i jus tread on another post that the GS can only pump out 1/60 shutter.. (1/50 in PAL land) and apparently the DVCcan go lower.. now im thinkin if the DVC can handle 1/25 @ 25fps frame mode.. were looking as a closer mactch to teh DVX than i first thought.. that is of course if it can actually do 1/25.. which noone can attest to right now.. so.. a slower shutter, means more light gettin in.. with more light, heres hoping the performance isnt substandard..

July 24th, 2004, 08:26 AM	#17
Kaku Ito Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo Posts: 1,382	Peter, No, DVC30 does not have 25fps. With GS100/400, only substitute to the slower shutter speed is the night mode. Only other choice to do 25fps is Cannon XL2 and XL2 has advantage in hi-res wide (a.k.a anamorphic or 16:9) which you have to buy expensive anamorphic lens with DVX100a and you would loose some brightness. My main cam would be XL2 when it is available. <<<-- Originally posted by Peter Jefferson : i jus tread on another post that the GS can only pump out 1/60 shutter.. (1/50 in PAL land) and apparently the DVCcan go lower.. now im thinkin if the DVC can handle 1/25 @ 25fps frame mode.. were looking as a closer mactch to teh DVX than i first thought.. that is of course if it can actually do 1/25.. which noone can attest to right now.. so.. a slower shutter, means more light gettin in.. with more light, heres hoping the performance isnt substandard.. -->>>

July 24th, 2004, 04:31 PM	#19
Ron Evans Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,220	Does the DVC30 have an external audio input for mic ( unbalanced ) and can this be switched to line in? I know that the xlr attachement has this capability. I would prefer to use my small mixer and feed just line to the DVC30. Since the manual isn't up on the Panasonic site yet I have not been able to get all the fine details!!! Ron Evans

July 24th, 2004, 05:41 PM	#20
Kaku Ito Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo Posts: 1,382	oops, sorry Tommy, I was talking about NTSC. Not sure about PAL. <<<-- Originally posted by Tommy Haupfear : A PAL DVC30 would have a 25fps frame mode, correct? The brochure below mentions slow shutter speeds all the way down to 1/4 on the NTSC DVC30. I'm not sure about PAL DVC30. Click here for DVC30 brochure PDF -->>>

July 24th, 2004, 10:30 PM	#21
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	Pal is the same, the only difference is the resolution and frame rate. one of the selling points of this cam is its frame mode

July 25th, 2004, 09:10 AM	#22
Joe Amato New Boot Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: astoria new york usa Posts: 23	I was at b&h the other day and my friend in pro video compared the zoom on the dvc-30 to the dvx-100a andhe said its faster and alot smoother plus the low dispersion lens seems sharper that sows that all cams have strength snd eeknesses like tommy said