[mx500 vs sony 170] frame confrontation at DVinfo.net

Marco Mezzalana · April 3rd, 2005, 06:42 AM

Ok this is a double post, but I think it could be useful even for pana user. If the moderator want it could delete this post...

In this forum I made a cofrontation between 170 and mx500...ok in low light 170 is a lot better, but in daylight...take a look!

http://www.videomakers.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=40991#40991

Tom Hardwick · May 3rd, 2005, 10:42 AM

I think the test is a little unfair Marco. If the PD170 was indeed reading f/11 on replay, that means the frame could've been shot at f/11, f/16 or f/22. They'll all read out as f/11 in the v'finder, and the camera would have been calling for the ND1 or indeed the ND2 to avoid the very damaging effect you demonstrate; diffraction.

The Panasonic may well read out f/16 on replay and when you actually took the shot, but you have to remember that this camera has two automatic ND filters that cannot be removed from the light path in bright conditions. So even though the display lies, the Panasonic would have been shooting at its f/4.5 sweet spot, whereas the PD170 would have been silent screaming for the NDs to be inserted.

The church interior shows simple camera shake on the 170 frame, so that's not a fair test either. The Leica lens is a beauty on the MX500, but the barrel distortion at the wide end is pretty severe. It's a good camera at the price, but against the 170 used intelligently, it really doesn't stand a chance. Mind you, it's 1/3rd the price.

tom.

Leigh Wanstead · May 3rd, 2005, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Marco Mezzalana

Ok this is a double post, but I think it could be useful even for pana user. If the moderator want it could delete this post...

In this forum I made a cofrontation between 170 and mx500...ok in low light 170 is a lot better, but in daylight...take a look!

http://www.videomakers.net/phpBB2/vi...?p=40991#40991

Hi Marco,

Would you please repost that in English? I can't understand that post except the number. That will make your post not qualify for double post and help others to read what you wrote. ;-)

Regards
Leigh

April 3rd, 2005, 06:42 AM	#1
Marco Mezzalana Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 85	[mx500 vs sony 170] frame confrontation Ok this is a double post, but I think it could be useful even for pana user. If the moderator want it could delete this post... In this forum I made a cofrontation between 170 and mx500...ok in low light 170 is a lot better, but in daylight...take a look! http://www.videomakers.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=40991#40991

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May 3rd, 2005, 10:42 AM	#2
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	I think the test is a little unfair Marco. If the PD170 was indeed reading f/11 on replay, that means the frame could've been shot at f/11, f/16 or f/22. They'll all read out as f/11 in the v'finder, and the camera would have been calling for the ND1 or indeed the ND2 to avoid the very damaging effect you demonstrate; diffraction. The Panasonic may well read out f/16 on replay and when you actually took the shot, but you have to remember that this camera has two automatic ND filters that cannot be removed from the light path in bright conditions. So even though the display lies, the Panasonic would have been shooting at its f/4.5 sweet spot, whereas the PD170 would have been silent screaming for the NDs to be inserted. The church interior shows simple camera shake on the 170 frame, so that's not a fair test either. The Leica lens is a beauty on the MX500, but the barrel distortion at the wide end is pretty severe. It's a good camera at the price, but against the 170 used intelligently, it really doesn't stand a chance. Mind you, it's 1/3rd the price. tom.