Anyone seen the PAL 100A? at DVinfo.net

John Hooper · January 4th, 2004, 08:28 AM

I live in the UK, and I would like to know when the PAL version of the DVX 100A will ship?

I have asked Panasonic UK, who were not very helpful, I think they have too many 100's at the moment to get rid of.

Is there a source that I can import from?

Peter Sieben · January 4th, 2004, 12:24 PM

Try the sponsors of this website/forum, or else www.expandore.com or www.globalmediapro.com.

John Hooper · January 4th, 2004, 12:37 PM

Thanks Peter,

I have looked at those websites you mention, but I don't know if they have a good reputation. They don't seem to list much information about themselves.

Peter Sieben · January 4th, 2004, 12:43 PM

I have done heavy research on both of them before buying the DVX100 PAL (but finally a suplier in my country did me an offer I couldn't refuse).

Expandore has a good reputation from indept. filmmakers I've checked directly, but they seem not to offer a creditcard payment (but perhaps you have to call/mail them about that).

GlobalMediaPro offers creditcard payments, but they charge you extra for that. I have had a good email contact with them which was okay and I could not find any bad news about them on the internet in forums etc.

It's up to you.

John Hooper · January 4th, 2004, 03:26 PM

Peter,

Perhaps your supplier in the Netherlands will get the 100A quicker than here in the UK?

Is your supplier on the web?

Peter Sieben · January 4th, 2004, 04:03 PM

I got it through Provid (www.provid.nl). They are a A/V company based in Amsterdam.

Call them for info, they are very helpful and trustful (lot's of examples to share on both areas).
They are an official Panasonic dealer. For my DVX100 I paid 3,500 euros including an extra battery (excluding VAT). They don't have a webshop.

Paul Leung · January 6th, 2004, 11:46 PM

John,

I just got my DVX100A last night from the shop. Just want to let you know that the shop told me that the warranty card issued by my HK agent can be exchanged to an International warranty card at the agent's office.

If you decide to get the DVX100A from another country, you may want to check if this warranty card exchange is available in that country. Good luck!

p.s. it is my first prosumer DV camera.... only realised that it is so heavy without a tripod last night.

John Hooper · January 7th, 2004, 04:26 AM

Thanks Paul,

I might have to purchase from another country. On the internet, one supplier is quoting US $3,500 and in Europe it is 3,500 Euros + tax. So in the EU this makes the 100A (PAL) about US $500 more expensive!

Paul Leung · January 7th, 2004, 09:46 AM

May be you can find a cheap air ticket to HK for $500, buy the camera in HK and do a travel documentary at the same time!

BTW, it costed me $3270 to get the DVX100A + Contax UV filter + 2x DVG54s batteries + 5x MQ tapes.... what a deal!

Brian Mitchell Warshawsky · January 13th, 2004, 05:20 PM

Just to confirm...

The Pal DVX100 also shoots 24P as well as 25P?

If so, is the resolution of 24P higher than the NTSC version?

Thanks,

Brian

Chris Hurd · January 13th, 2004, 05:32 PM

If I recall correctly, there is no 24p mode in the PAL version of the DVX100.

Stephen van Vuuren · January 13th, 2004, 05:41 PM

Chris is correct. PAL does not have 24p or 30p, only 25p.

Paul Leung · January 14th, 2004, 01:40 AM

Just want to correct my last email. I have confirmation from Panasonic in Hong Kong that the exchange for International warranty is only applicable to comsumer products. They regard the DVX100A as a professional product and the warranty has effect in Hong Kong only. Sorry for the incorrect info.

Brian Mitchell Warshawsky · January 14th, 2004, 09:34 AM

>>>Chris is correct. PAL does not have 24p or 30p, only 25p.

But is the resolution that much better that might make the PAL better suited for film out than the NTSC version?

I just saw a sample of footage shot on the PAL DVX100 and it looked stunningly film like. I have so far not come across anything as rich looking shot in NTSC.

Brian

Peter Sieben · January 15th, 2004, 10:46 AM

I have the PAL DVX100 and it's a great camcorder. I can't compare it with the NTSC version, but an advantage of the PAL version is also the fact that there isn't any special issues with your NLE, you can just work in progressive mode. Despite of Vegas having advanced pull down methodes for the ntsc-version of the DVX100, it's better to work straight on with the captured material.

January 4th, 2004, 08:28 AM	#1
John Hooper New Boot Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: United kingdom Posts: 12	Anyone seen the PAL 100A? I live in the UK, and I would like to know when the PAL version of the DVX 100A will ship? I have asked Panasonic UK, who were not very helpful, I think they have too many 100's at the moment to get rid of. Is there a source that I can import from?

January 4th, 2004, 12:24 PM	#2
Peter Sieben Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 345	Try the sponsors of this website/forum, or else www.expandore.com or www.globalmediapro.com. __________________ Peter / Orphic Film www.orphicfilm.nl and www.myspace.com/orphicfilm

January 4th, 2004, 12:43 PM	#4
Peter Sieben Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 345	I have done heavy research on both of them before buying the DVX100 PAL (but finally a suplier in my country did me an offer I couldn't refuse). Expandore has a good reputation from indept. filmmakers I've checked directly, but they seem not to offer a creditcard payment (but perhaps you have to call/mail them about that). GlobalMediaPro offers creditcard payments, but they charge you extra for that. I have had a good email contact with them which was okay and I could not find any bad news about them on the internet in forums etc. It's up to you. __________________ Peter / Orphic Film www.orphicfilm.nl and www.myspace.com/orphicfilm

January 4th, 2004, 04:03 PM	#6
Peter Sieben Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 345	I got it through Provid (www.provid.nl). They are a A/V company based in Amsterdam. Call them for info, they are very helpful and trustful (lot's of examples to share on both areas). They are an official Panasonic dealer. For my DVX100 I paid 3,500 euros including an extra battery (excluding VAT). They don't have a webshop. __________________ Peter / Orphic Film www.orphicfilm.nl and www.myspace.com/orphicfilm

January 13th, 2004, 05:20 PM	#10
Brian Mitchell Warshawsky Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bay Area Posts: 216	Pal DVX100 Just to confirm... The Pal DVX100 also shoots 24P as well as 25P? If so, is the resolution of 24P higher than the NTSC version? Thanks, Brian

January 4th, 2004, 12:37 PM	#3
John Hooper New Boot Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: United kingdom Posts: 12	Thanks Peter, I have looked at those websites you mention, but I don't know if they have a good reputation. They don't seem to list much information about themselves.

January 4th, 2004, 03:26 PM	#5
John Hooper New Boot Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: United kingdom Posts: 12	Peter, Perhaps your supplier in the Netherlands will get the 100A quicker than here in the UK? Is your supplier on the web?

January 6th, 2004, 11:46 PM	#7
Paul Leung Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 173	John, I just got my DVX100A last night from the shop. Just want to let you know that the shop told me that the warranty card issued by my HK agent can be exchanged to an International warranty card at the agent's office. If you decide to get the DVX100A from another country, you may want to check if this warranty card exchange is available in that country. Good luck! p.s. it is my first prosumer DV camera.... only realised that it is so heavy without a tripod last night.

January 7th, 2004, 04:26 AM	#8
John Hooper New Boot Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: United kingdom Posts: 12	Thanks Paul, I might have to purchase from another country. On the internet, one supplier is quoting US $3,500 and in Europe it is 3,500 Euros + tax. So in the EU this makes the 100A (PAL) about US $500 more expensive!

January 7th, 2004, 09:46 AM	#9
Paul Leung Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 173	May be you can find a cheap air ticket to HK for $500, buy the camera in HK and do a travel documentary at the same time! BTW, it costed me $3270 to get the DVX100A + Contax UV filter + 2x DVG54s batteries + 5x MQ tapes.... what a deal!

January 13th, 2004, 05:32 PM	#11
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	If I recall correctly, there is no 24p mode in the PAL version of the DVX100. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 13th, 2004, 05:41 PM	#12
Stephen van Vuuren Space Hipster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,508	Chris is correct. PAL does not have 24p or 30p, only 25p. __________________ stephen v2 www.insaturnsrings.com

January 14th, 2004, 01:40 AM	#13
Paul Leung Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 173	Just want to correct my last email. I have confirmation from Panasonic in Hong Kong that the exchange for International warranty is only applicable to comsumer products. They regard the DVX100A as a professional product and the warranty has effect in Hong Kong only. Sorry for the incorrect info.

January 14th, 2004, 09:34 AM	#14
Brian Mitchell Warshawsky Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bay Area Posts: 216	>>>Chris is correct. PAL does not have 24p or 30p, only 25p. But is the resolution that much better that might make the PAL better suited for film out than the NTSC version? I just saw a sample of footage shot on the PAL DVX100 and it looked stunningly film like. I have so far not come across anything as rich looking shot in NTSC. Brian

January 15th, 2004, 10:46 AM	#15
Peter Sieben Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 345	I have the PAL DVX100 and it's a great camcorder. I can't compare it with the NTSC version, but an advantage of the PAL version is also the fact that there isn't any special issues with your NLE, you can just work in progressive mode. Despite of Vegas having advanced pull down methodes for the ntsc-version of the DVX100, it's better to work straight on with the captured material. __________________ Peter / Orphic Film www.orphicfilm.nl and www.myspace.com/orphicfilm