AG-DVC60 various topics

Jackson Carver · March 16th, 2007, 08:23 AM

Any big name should be good quality. Sony i.Link would probably be the best. I haven't found any problems using normal generic brands, though.

Chuck Fadely · October 7th, 2007, 11:38 AM

We've got four DVC60 cameras that we can't capture from into Final Cut Studio 2 without audio synch problems.

The audio is out of synch on all four cameras, but to differing degrees (not related to clip length.) It's driving us nuts. It doesn't seem to be a setup problem. (Cameras and software both set to 48khz.)

Nothing wrong with the tapes -- we can use a different deck and it's in synch.

Just a problem with the capture from the camera. (And the tapes play back in camera in synch, when monitored from the headphone jack.)

Anyone having problems with any other NLE?

Chris Soucy · October 12th, 2007, 01:02 AM

I stumbled upon this gem of info whilst researching audio mixers. It's on the Sign Video web site. I'm not familiar with the cameras you've mentioned but could this be a possible cure?
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MINI-DV UNLOCKED AUDIO PROBLEMS- Are they real and how can they be fixed?
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Problems Are Rare
In the DVCAM and DVPRO video formats, the audio signal is locked to the video signal, insuring that audio and video will always stay in sync. Technically, in the less expensive DV format, i.e. mini-DV format, the DV audio signal is not locked to the video signal, and could stray somewhat out of sync. In practice, this is rarely a noticeable problem. Audio and video usually stay in sync, even though there is no "lock" to guarantee that they will stay in sync. This sometimes drives DV camcorder dealers nuts, since the manufacturer feels obligated to tell the public that the audio is unlocked. Meanwhile, the dealer has not had so much as a single customer complaint about unlocked audio.
If your budget limits you to a DV camcorder, or you just like the smaller, lighter camcorder, don't worry about locked and unlocked audio. It is unlikely that you will have significant problems, and in fact, you may never have a problem.

Audio Can Be Relocked
In the rare event that you do have a problem, you can take your tape to a professional video house and have it dubbed between two DVCAM decks to relock the audio. Again, the problem is rare, so the video house may not be familiar with the process. Tell them to do the following:

Dub from a DSR 60 or 80 to a DSR 80 or 85 in QSDI mode.
This will relock the audio. "

May be a complete red herring, but hey, it's something.

CS

Chris Soucy · October 28th, 2007, 01:37 PM

You ever sort this problem?

Chuck?

CS

Chuck Fadely · October 28th, 2007, 07:59 PM

No, we solved it by buying some sony decks. Still haven't figured out if it was a Panasonic issue or a Mac issue.

Gary Chvatal · January 23rd, 2008, 02:05 PM

I just bought a used DVC60 (with 24 hours on the meter). Checking it out this afternoon...looks like a nice camera.

Anyway...I just noticed that the battery charger has a seperate cable that connects the cam to the charger when using AC to power the camera. Well that DC cable is missing.

Is that a generic type cable that I could buy at an electronics retailer or will I need a special order Panny part. I hate to buy the whole charger assembly just to get that one cable...

Any ideas? Thanks

Gary Chvatal · January 23rd, 2008, 05:52 PM

I saw a link to Panny's parts ordering web site. Ordered the cable...it will be less than $20 with shipping...

Now I'm going to go try out the cam....

Matt Stamm · April 5th, 2008, 12:13 AM

So I rented a DVC60 from my school for the weekend, and when the guy was packing everything up, I asked if he had a charger for the camera. (This was after he tested the camera to make sure it was working, it was). So he looks around and sees a charger plugs it in, nothing happens. Then he looks at it, oh this is for a laptop, no sorry man but you have 2 batteries you should be fine. So I take it and all.

When I got here, the camera would not turn on. I checked the voltage for its DC in, and it was 7.9 Volts. I looked at the charger for MY laptop, and it said 65 volts, probably similar to the one that he plugged in. Did this fry the camera? Blow a fuse? I really need to shoot this project this weekend, is there anything I can do to get this fixed?

Giroud Francois · April 5th, 2008, 06:56 AM

yes , laptop charger are usually around 20V, so there is a big chance that something is fried in the camera.

Chris Hurd · April 5th, 2008, 07:17 AM

Sorry, there is no remedy other than sending the camera to an authorized Panasonic repair facility.

Most likely a master fuse inside has blown but there is no way to replace it yourself.

Moved from Open DV Discussion to Panasonic DVX / DVC.

Steve House · April 5th, 2008, 12:14 PM

And let's hope the school accepts responsibility for the repair cost since it was THEIR tech that did the damage as you were picking it up.

Tim Meier · April 13th, 2008, 09:53 PM

If you find that the school wants you to pay for the camera this what i would do. So you know I have a dvc-60p and it has more then 290 hours on the head. It is a great camera if you use a sound mixer and go in via the XLR jacks. the mikes are only good in low noise levels. any way if you can find someone local like myself who is good at repairing stuff you can find the shop manual on line at manualsparadise.com i know that they have the manual for the dvc-30 it is the same as the dvc-60 with out the XLR'S Just a thought. GOOD LUCK. You can buy parts on line also i have had to replace a dew sensor before.

October 7th, 2007, 11:38 AM	#47
Chuck Fadely Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: United States Posts: 306	Audio synch problems capturing from DVC60? We've got four DVC60 cameras that we can't capture from into Final Cut Studio 2 without audio synch problems. The audio is out of synch on all four cameras, but to differing degrees (not related to clip length.) It's driving us nuts. It doesn't seem to be a setup problem. (Cameras and software both set to 48khz.) Nothing wrong with the tapes -- we can use a different deck and it's in synch. Just a problem with the capture from the camera. (And the tapes play back in camera in synch, when monitored from the headphone jack.) Anyone having problems with any other NLE?

October 12th, 2007, 01:02 AM	#48
Chris Soucy Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairfield, Dunedin, New Zealand Posts: 3,682 Images: 18	Hi Chuck............. I stumbled upon this gem of info whilst researching audio mixers. It's on the Sign Video web site. I'm not familiar with the cameras you've mentioned but could this be a possible cure? " MINI-DV UNLOCKED AUDIO PROBLEMS- Are they real and how can they be fixed? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Problems Are Rare In the DVCAM and DVPRO video formats, the audio signal is locked to the video signal, insuring that audio and video will always stay in sync. Technically, in the less expensive DV format, i.e. mini-DV format, the DV audio signal is not locked to the video signal, and could stray somewhat out of sync. In practice, this is rarely a noticeable problem. Audio and video usually stay in sync, even though there is no "lock" to guarantee that they will stay in sync. This sometimes drives DV camcorder dealers nuts, since the manufacturer feels obligated to tell the public that the audio is unlocked. Meanwhile, the dealer has not had so much as a single customer complaint about unlocked audio. If your budget limits you to a DV camcorder, or you just like the smaller, lighter camcorder, don't worry about locked and unlocked audio. It is unlikely that you will have significant problems, and in fact, you may never have a problem. Audio Can Be Relocked In the rare event that you do have a problem, you can take your tape to a professional video house and have it dubbed between two DVCAM decks to relock the audio. Again, the problem is rare, so the video house may not be familiar with the process. Tell them to do the following: Dub from a DSR 60 or 80 to a DSR 80 or 85 in QSDI mode. This will relock the audio. " May be a complete red herring, but hey, it's something. CS

October 28th, 2007, 01:37 PM	#49
Chris Soucy Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairfield, Dunedin, New Zealand Posts: 3,682 Images: 18	Chuck................ You ever sort this problem? Chuck? CS

January 23rd, 2008, 02:05 PM	#51
Gary Chvatal Tourist Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 2	DC Power Cable for DVC60? I just bought a used DVC60 (with 24 hours on the meter). Checking it out this afternoon...looks like a nice camera. Anyway...I just noticed that the battery charger has a seperate cable that connects the cam to the charger when using AC to power the camera. Well that DC cable is missing. Is that a generic type cable that I could buy at an electronics retailer or will I need a special order Panny part. I hate to buy the whole charger assembly just to get that one cable... Any ideas? Thanks

January 23rd, 2008, 05:52 PM	#52
Gary Chvatal Tourist Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 2	Never Mind I saw a link to Panny's parts ordering web site. Ordered the cable...it will be less than $20 with shipping... Now I'm going to go try out the cam....

March 16th, 2007, 08:23 AM	#46
Jackson Carver New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 9	Any big name should be good quality. Sony i.Link would probably be the best. I haven't found any problems using normal generic brands, though.

October 28th, 2007, 07:59 PM	#50
Chuck Fadely Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: United States Posts: 306	No, we solved it by buying some sony decks. Still haven't figured out if it was a Panasonic issue or a Mac issue.

April 5th, 2008, 12:13 AM	#53
Matt Stamm New Boot Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 7	Is this DVC60 camera fried? can it be fixed? So I rented a DVC60 from my school for the weekend, and when the guy was packing everything up, I asked if he had a charger for the camera. (This was after he tested the camera to make sure it was working, it was). So he looks around and sees a charger plugs it in, nothing happens. Then he looks at it, oh this is for a laptop, no sorry man but you have 2 batteries you should be fine. So I take it and all. When I got here, the camera would not turn on. I checked the voltage for its DC in, and it was 7.9 Volts. I looked at the charger for MY laptop, and it said 65 volts, probably similar to the one that he plugged in. Did this fry the camera? Blow a fuse? I really need to shoot this project this weekend, is there anything I can do to get this fixed?

April 5th, 2008, 06:56 AM	#54
Giroud Francois Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: switzerland Posts: 2,133	yes , laptop charger are usually around 20V, so there is a big chance that something is fried in the camera.

April 5th, 2008, 07:17 AM	#55
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Sorry, there is no remedy other than sending the camera to an authorized Panasonic repair facility. Most likely a master fuse inside has blown but there is no way to replace it yourself. Moved from Open DV Discussion to Panasonic DVX / DVC. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

April 5th, 2008, 12:14 PM	#56
Steve House Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,742	And let's hope the school accepts responsibility for the repair cost since it was THEIR tech that did the damage as you were picking it up. __________________ Good news, Cousins! This week's chocolate ration is 15 grams!

April 13th, 2008, 09:53 PM	#57
Tim Meier Tourist Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Manteno , Illinois Posts: 2	If you find that the school wants you to pay for the camera this what i would do. So you know I have a dvc-60p and it has more then 290 hours on the head. It is a great camera if you use a sound mixer and go in via the XLR jacks. the mikes are only good in low noise levels. any way if you can find someone local like myself who is good at repairing stuff you can find the shop manual on line at manualsparadise.com i know that they have the manual for the dvc-30 it is the same as the dvc-60 with out the XLR'S Just a thought. GOOD LUCK. You can buy parts on line also i have had to replace a dew sensor before.