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Yang Wen July 23rd, 2003 03:14 PM

Even the retail panasonic 2800mah will not get 5 hours with the DVX100 !!! it's onyl 5 hours with those small 1CCD camcorders.

Alturo Nguyen July 23rd, 2003 03:46 PM

portable battery for dvx100? or cigarette adapter?
 
besides the one's panasonic makes, i mean for nrg style beltpacks anyone know of a setup?

Robert Mann Z. July 24th, 2003 07:40 AM

cigarette adapter...BH told me there not out yet...was this not true?

Alturo Nguyen July 24th, 2003 07:47 AM

that's what they say, and nrg says as well, and nrg doesn't plan on making anythign for it anytime soon

William Wallick July 27th, 2003 12:16 AM

5400mAh batteries aren't available in the US yet, but there is a guy selling them on Ebay. I got one and am quite satisfied.
WW

Barry Green July 27th, 2003 01:37 AM

Actually, they are now available in the US. B&H lists the CGR-D54 as "in stock" at $169.00.

William Wallick July 27th, 2003 09:51 AM

OK.

Yikes! I got mine for $79
WW

Stefan Susini July 27th, 2003 11:18 AM

Switch on battery ?
 
Hello,

there is a switch on the back of the battery 1600 mAh that came with the AG-DVX100, it shows a red dot position when on the left, or nothing when on the right. Nothing about it on the manual. Somebody knows what it means?

Stefan

Winston Cheong July 27th, 2003 12:31 PM

Most battery maker have that for the user to identify if a battery is charged. There is no electrical connection on the switch and its up to you to denote if the red dot is for a fully charged battery.

Barry Green July 27th, 2003 02:07 PM

Yeah, I know, mine too -- that $79 deal just rules! I don't know if he has any more though, there aren't any more listed for sale...

Stefan Susini July 27th, 2003 04:35 PM

Thank you very much Winston, useful feature...

Stefan

Neil Slade July 30th, 2003 01:01 AM

Battery Liars
 
OKAY FOLKS

I've now tried several brands and sources of batteries-- and tested them.

The FINAL RESULTS

EVERYONE, except Panasonic LIES about the mAh capacity of their batteries.

The easiest way to tell if a manufacturer is telling the truth is to WEIGH the battery. Weight directly translates into capacity in the same type of battery.

The OEM Panasonic 2800 mAh batteries weigh 191 grams, and last roughly 2.8 hours with the camera in record and the LCD open.

I bought a POWER 2000 "3600 mAh" (hahahaha!) battery for $69 plus shipping from B & H. It weighed 150 grams, and it lasted 3/4 the time of the OEM battery, i.e. it was really a 2500 mAh battery falsely labled by Power 2000 and repeated in the B & H specs.

I bought an Eagle Imports "2800 mAh" battery for $30 plus $6 shipping, and it also weighed 150 grams. Again, same relative capacity. Probably the same manufacturer as above. It was also REALLY a 2500 mAh battery. At least, this is a good deal - you get your money's worth, and it is more cost effective than the Panasonic batteries which go for about $109 at your local camera discount store for 2800mAh.

I also bought a SAKAR battery, a "2800 mAh" battery from buydig.com-- it weighed 171 grams, but had HORRIBLE life, less than 30 minutes even after several charges and recharges. Either defective, or just plain AWFUL. Buydig gave me a complete refund (as I will expect from B & H for the Power 2000), and buydig sent a perfectly good true 2800 mAh Panasonic battery to replace it- though it cost $119 (including shipping). I didn't mind paying them this much for one battery as I save a bundle on buying my camera from them- and I have had excellent service from them regarding all of my other purchases.

THE MORAL- If you want the longest lasting battery that truly reflects accurately the claimed mAh, Panasonic is the only game in town.

If you want the most cost effective battery, buy the 2800 mAh battery from Eagle Imports on Ebay.
It lasts about 2.5 hours, recording with the LCD open, though the advertised mAh is over generous.

Neil Slade
www.NeilSlade.com

PS- I just converted a $70 Raynox .3X wide angle clip on lens to use with my DVX. It screws on. will post DIY instructions for that and a DIY 50 cent (that's right folks) LCD lens shade that works BETTER than the fancy ones you buy soon.

Neil Slade July 30th, 2003 01:03 AM

BATTERY LIES
 
OKAY FOLKS

I've now tried several brands and sources of batteries-- and tested them.

The FINAL RESULTS

EVERYONE, except Panasonic LIES about the mAh capacity of their batteries.

The easiest way to tell if a manufacturer is telling the truth is to WEIGH the battery. Weight directly translates into capacity in the same type of battery.

The OEM Panasonic 2800 mAh batteries weigh 191 grams, and last roughly 2.8 hours with the camera in record and the LCD open.

I bought a POWER 2000 "3600 mAh" (hahahaha!) battery for $69 plus shipping from B & H. It weighed 150 grams, and it lasted 3/4 the time of the OEM battery, i.e. it was really a 2500 mAh battery falsely labled by Power 2000 and repeated in the B & H specs.

I bought an Eagle Imports "2800 mAh" battery for $30 plus $6 shipping, and it also weighed 150 grams. Again, same relative capacity. Probably the same manufacturer as above. It was also REALLY a 2500 mAh battery. At least, this is a good deal - you get your money's worth, and it is more cost effective than the Panasonic batteries which go for about $109 at your local camera discount store for 2800mAh.

I also bought a SAKAR battery, a "2800 mAh" battery from buydig.com-- it weighed 171 grams, but had HORRIBLE life, less than 30 minutes even after several charges and recharges. Either defective, or just plain AWFUL. Buydig gave me a complete refund (as I will expect from B & H for the Power 2000), and buydig sent a perfectly good true 2800 mAh Panasonic battery to replace it- though it cost $119 (including shipping). I didn't mind paying them this much for one battery as I save a bundle on buying my camera from them- and I have had excellent service from them regarding all of my other purchases.

THE MORAL- If you want the longest lasting battery that truly reflects accurately the claimed mAh, Panasonic is the only game in town.

If you want the most cost effective battery, buy the 2800 mAh battery from Eagle Imports on Ebay.
It lasts about 2.5 hours, recording with the LCD open, though the advertised mAh is over generous.

Neil Slade
www.NeilSlade.com

PS- I just converted a $70 Raynox .3X wide angle clip on lens to use with my DVX. It screws on. will post DIY instructions for that and a DIY 50 cent (that's right folks) LCD lens shade that works BETTER than the fancy ones you buy soon.

Neil Slade July 30th, 2003 01:05 AM

Battery Lies (copy)
 
OKAY FOLKS

I've now tried several brands and sources of batteries-- and tested them.

The FINAL RESULTS

EVERYONE, except Panasonic LIES about the mAh capacity of their batteries.

The easiest way to tell if a manufacturer is telling the truth is to WEIGH the battery. Weight directly translates into capacity in the same type of battery.

The OEM Panasonic 2800 mAh batteries weigh 191 grams, and last roughly 2.8 hours with the camera in record and the LCD open.

I bought a POWER 2000 "3600 mAh" (hahahaha!) battery for $69 plus shipping from B & H. It weighed 150 grams, and it lasted 3/4 the time of the OEM battery, i.e. it was really a 2500 mAh battery falsely labled by Power 2000 and repeated in the B & H specs.

I bought an Eagle Imports "2800 mAh" battery for $30 plus $6 shipping, and it also weighed 150 grams. Again, same relative capacity. Probably the same manufacturer as above. It was also REALLY a 2500 mAh battery. At least, this is a good deal - you get your money's worth, and it is more cost effective than the Panasonic batteries which go for about $109 at your local camera discount store for 2800mAh.

I also bought a SAKAR battery, a "2800 mAh" battery from buydig.com-- it weighed 171 grams, but had HORRIBLE life, less than 30 minutes even after several charges and recharges. Either defective, or just plain AWFUL. Buydig gave me a complete refund (as I will expect from B & H for the Power 2000), and buydig sent a perfectly good true 2800 mAh Panasonic battery to replace it- though it cost $119 (including shipping). I didn't mind paying them this much for one battery as I save a bundle on buying my camera from them- and I have had excellent service from them regarding all of my other purchases.

THE MORAL- If you want the longest lasting battery that truly reflects accurately the claimed mAh, Panasonic is the only game in town.

If you want the most cost effective battery, buy the 2800 mAh battery from Eagle Imports on Ebay.
It lasts about 2.5 hours, recording with the LCD open, though the advertised mAh is over generous.

Neil Slade
www.NeilSlade.com

PS- I just converted a $70 Raynox .3X wide angle clip on lens to use with my DVX. It screws on. will post DIY instructions for that and a DIY 50 cent (that's right folks) LCD lens shade that works BETTER than the fancy ones you buy soon.

Jarred Land July 30th, 2003 01:24 AM

im actually trying to get the same company Panasonic uses in China to make 100 5000 mah batteries for me. They are being tested by a 3rd pary for true Mah and cycle life. I will probally sell 90 of them, for the same price as the Power 2000 cells. I just need to work the FOB stuff out with them.

and yes my eagle importers battery lasts 2.5 hours, but it was advertised as a 2500mah cell.

Neil Slade July 30th, 2003 09:46 AM

Eagle Life
 
Yeah, my guess is that the manufacturers of the Eagle batteries now put exactly the same cells in the 2500 mAh batteries as they do in the claimed and labled 2800 mAh batteries-- purely to compete with the 2800 mAh Panasonic Japanese batteries. All these mAh specs in cheaper second party batteries are a lie, no doubt about it.



Neil

Matthew DeJesus August 6th, 2003 11:35 AM

Best snap on battery for DVX100/DVC80
 
I am in the process of purchasing one of the above for event videography but cannot find the higher capacity Panasonic battery in stock anywhere. I can only find the 2800 which I considered purchasing two of but would rather purchase one of the longer lasting battery for less.

Any input would be greatly appreciated!!

Jarred Land August 7th, 2003 10:11 AM

The 2800-3200mah batteries are an ideal weight distribution, the larger 5000mah batteries make the camera very rear heavy, if that sort of thing matters to you.

Jarred Land August 7th, 2003 10:59 PM

yes, I recently purchased one from eagle importers and It was a 2500mah, I think they only advertised 2800mah ones for a while, found out they where really 2500mah and changed them because all they sell is 2500 ones now.

Nathan Collins August 14th, 2003 12:31 PM

XL1 batteries on a DVX100?
 
Can youu use battereis for the XL1 on a DVX100? If not, are there any batteries besides the pannys you can use?

Jeff Donald August 14th, 2003 07:08 PM

No, XL1 batteries will not physically fit the DVX100. Lenmar makes batteries to fit many different models of cameras.

Nathan Collins August 14th, 2003 07:11 PM

Thank you
 
Thank you

Stephen van Vuuren August 14th, 2003 08:41 PM

Check this thread:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=12133

Rob Easler October 9th, 2003 10:26 AM

Who has the CGR-D54 battery in stock?
 
Anybody know where we can buy the big CGR-D54 battery? B&H is out of stock. Not much comming up on the internet except one place I've never heard of. The way this thing uses juice that battery is essential.

Scott Plowman October 9th, 2003 09:59 PM

Rob go to Ebay and there is a company named Eagle importers or whatever .. their in Utah if you do a search for the panasonic cg d28 it will come up. for 34.95 they have a battery that will last 3 - 4 hours easy its a cgrd 320 is their nomenclature.

I bought 2 and have used them for a couple months and so far im happy. They were quick they shipped fast and well secured. I plan to buy a couple more.. Buying the DVX100 before years end.. depending how those sales commissions go at work. lol

Hope that helps

PS went to site and their# is 801.463.1418

Christopher Go October 10th, 2003 04:59 AM

That's a good suggestion - I may give them a try since I've heard good things about them elsewhere as well.

Otherwise, there's also Zotz Digital, a solid company to work with, and a sponser of this site too. Check them out to see if they have it in stock, ask for Tom or Brian.

Rob Easler October 10th, 2003 06:45 AM

Scott, I bought a pair of Sabah Oceanic Batteries that were to emulate the BP945 for the GL2 and they do not last half as long as the Cannon name brand, even though the Sabah's were listed as having more juice. Of course I have not tried every brand but for this reason I am leary about the knock off batteries.

Scott Plowman October 10th, 2003 08:36 AM

I can appreciate your concern. I too had the same concerns what I found was that the batteries worked at least three hours +

I did recieve a cgr d16 i think with the camera.. So I havent had a comparable sized battery to compare it too.. What I do know is I can use my camera quite a long time with those batteries.. I cannot attest to their longeviety for charge and recharge.. I have only used them for a couple of months.

The main issue I think is the price.. 34.95 they outpower the smaller panasonic batteries that seem readily available. For the price I dont think you can go wrong. If they were comparably priced to the real deal then i would consider the panasonic ones naturaly..

John Dorfax November 10th, 2003 02:03 PM

CGR-D28 Battery - Not Panasonic
 
Hello there. With my recently purchased DVX100 I recieved 2 CGR-D28 Batterys made by DIGITAL CONCEPTS. It worries me that they aren't Panasonic.

I was also sent a DigiCom Charger.

So I was wondering if any other users own this brand CGR-D28s or charger. If so, do they serve you well?

John Britt November 10th, 2003 05:57 PM

The DVX100 should have come with one Panasonic battery (the CGR D16 -- the low-end one) and a Panasonic charger. If you bought a suppossedly "brand-new" cam and it only came with off-brand charger and battery, then you got scr*wed.

That said, if it simply came with an extra charger and two extra batteries, then great. Off-brand isn't necessarily bad, but your camera should have at least come with the typical Panasonic accessories.

See the DVX100 brochure for included accessories:
ftp://ftp.panasonic.com/pub/Panasonic/Drivers/PBTS/brochures/B_AG-DVX100.pdf

John Dorfax November 10th, 2003 06:18 PM

My camera came with the battery and all the other accessories. I just ordered 2 CGR-D28 Batteries in addition to it. For some reason I had assumed they would be Panasonic. But they weren't.

I suppose I'll use 'em anyhow...

John Britt November 10th, 2003 07:01 PM

Ahh...Phew, that's a much better scenario than what I was assuming!

It seems that most people recommend buying "off-brand" batteries -- you can get very good quality for a much cheaper price in many cases.

I haven't used Digital Concepts before, but when I bought my DVC80 I bought the Power2000 brand batteries instead of the Panasonic brand and I've been more than happy with the performance.

If you paid Panasonic prices for these batteries, or if the company led you to believe that they'd be Panny batteries, then I'd worry (and be p*ssed). Otherwise, give the batteries a workout and see how long they last. You might be pleasantly surprised.

Yang Wen November 10th, 2003 11:29 PM

I recommend the Panasonic 5400mah battery very much. I was able to pick one up off of ebay $80 before they were released for sale here in the U.S. now at $150. Hopefully they will pop up on the auction scene again. I wouldn't hesitate to buy one.

Mikel Low November 24th, 2003 03:05 PM

AG-DVX100(P) Batteries
 
All -

I know there has been much discussion on the board in regards to buying batteries with extended life for this astonishing camera and thought I'd add my 2 cents. I've perused much of the battery information found in this forum but it did not solve an urgent dilema. I've been looking for a 3-hour battery since my purchase but quite honestly did not want to attempt an online purchase after considering some of the online vendor(s) reputations. That is not to say that ALL online vendor(s) are created equal but I've read more con-type reviews than pro and it was enough to make me wary. I've considered EBay as well but really didn't want to go through the hassle of the process. I could have used the specialty shop where I purchased my camera but they told me it would be 5-7 business days and this was direct from Panasonic. I know - impatient, right?

So - just on a whim, I decided to go to the local Radio Shack and what do you know. They carry a 3-hour(CL210/211) and 4.5-hour battery(CL310) that is 100% compatible as a replacement for the AG-DVX100's CGR-28A/1B. It's a company called Again&Again (made in Japan) and distributed by North American Battery Company in San Diego, Ca. The battery is a CL210/211 Li-Ion/7.2V/1700mAh/3-Hour Running Time and sells for $75 usd.

http://www.nabcorp.com/search/images/cl210.jpg

I was going to purchase the 4.5-Hour version but they were sold out for the moment. I realize that many AG owners (as well as others) would rather get a better deal online but at least at Radio Shack, you won't have to contend with the constant attempts at the hard upsell, lost merchandise, refusals to provide tracking numbers, bait & switch routines, that classic, "It's no longer in stock" when you decline the upsell and the accompanying rudeness when you call to confirm an order.

On a lighter note, a good battery cross reference site for many different camcorder batteries can be found at the following:

www.nabcorp.com

Happy Thanksgiving to all.

Cheers!

Barry Green November 24th, 2003 10:02 PM

There are much better deals available. What you need to pay attention to is not the "so-and-so hours" rating, but the milli-amphour rating. You got 1700mah batteries. They sell 3100mah batteries (about twice the capacity) over at DVXUSER.COM. B&H sells Power2000 batteries which are 3600mah for about $70. The biggest battery is the 5400mah Panasonic CGR-D54s, which run about $180.

Frank Granovski November 24th, 2003 11:20 PM

I agree with Barry. And if you want DVX batteries made by Pana, you can get them in Japan or Down-Under for a lot cheaper, especially with the hip-pack.

Mikel Low November 25th, 2003 12:02 AM

Thanks for the additional info gents. I will definitely look into getting more bang for my buck in the near future. I needed a quick fix for today as I am totally aware of the mAh rating. This is the very reason I enjoy this board so much because the pro's (like you guys) are always ready to drop the wisdom. Thanks again for the response.

Johnny Cheung December 16th, 2003 01:17 AM

so may i know if CGRD53A is compatible with DVC80? This one below at b&h i mean:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=214243&is=REG

thanks a lot.

Barry Green December 16th, 2003 01:52 AM

The D53 would definitely be compatible with the DVC80. However, it's a belt-pack-mount battery system which may or may not be convenient for you.

The CGR-D54 is also known as the VW-VBD55. It's the longest-lasting, most convenient battery available for the DVX. I got one from ebay seller "shimwass" and it's by far my favorite battery, it lasts about six hours with no sweat. I also have a couple of the Power2000 3600mah batteries, they seem to last around three, maybe three and a half hours.

Johnny Cheung December 16th, 2003 03:50 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Barry Green : The D53 would definitely be compatible with the DVC80. However, it's a belt-pack-mount battery system which may or may not be convenient for you.

The CGR-D54 is also known as the VW-VBD55. It's the longest-lasting, most convenient battery available for the DVX. I got one from ebay seller "shimwass" and it's by far my favorite battery, it lasts about six hours with no sweat. I also have a couple of the Power2000 3600mah batteries, they seem to last around three, maybe three and a half hours. -->>>

Oh I see. I found CGR-D54 on b&h, the price is $169.00, do you think it is good price?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=282863&is=REG

and do you think its better to stick with one brand (panasonic) or it doesnt hurt if you switch between different brand of batteries?

thnx again.


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