Phantom Powereding a mic (ME 66) at DVinfo.net

Esteban Sosa · February 5th, 2003, 04:10 PM

This question is specific to the Sennheiser ME 66 Shotgun Mic or any mic that sells along with a battery powered adapter:

I am trying to find out info on using a shotgun mic on the new DVX100 and have narrowed the choice down to the ME 66. I just have one question. Since the DVX100 has the ability to "Phantom Power" a microphone, can the ME 66 be used without having to buy the K6 Modular Condenser?

I've been reading that powering a mic by battery results in a weaker signal than if you power it by the camera and only having to buy the ME 66 without the K6 Module would save a few bucks.

Thank you for any responses~

Aric Spence · February 5th, 2003, 05:31 PM

The K6 or K6P must be used with the ME66. Keep in mind that after you purchase the module, you will have the ability to get other capsules for it.

Esteban Sosa · February 6th, 2003, 07:51 AM

Thank you Aric.

Just when your mind starts to think, you can save a few bucks here or there, there is always something else to buy.... :)

I love this business~

Steve

Jaime Valles · February 6th, 2003, 11:51 AM

So, which shotgun mics CAN the use phantom power from the DVX100? I am also doing research for shotgun mics for use in a boom, and the less equipment, the better...

Brian M. Dickman · February 6th, 2003, 01:25 PM

Many shotguns are like the K6/ME66, and can operate either way. However, it's often better to run phantom powered externally because it provides more power than the internal supply gives, and the increased power provides better performance. A few reviews have pointed to this specifically on the AudioTechnica AT835b, for instance.

In the case of the ME66, you have to realize that the capsule itself (the ME-66 proper) doesn't actually do anything unless it's attached to the power/connector module, either the K6 or K6P. Most of the prices you see will be for the complete kit though, capsule and module.

Scott Silverman · February 7th, 2003, 02:50 AM

Someone on this forum once said that they thought the ME66 with battery K6 powered by phantom actually sounded equal to, if not better than, the K6 Phantom only. I don't remember who it was, but the battery K6 is cheaper and if you ever wanted to use it with a wireless transmitter or a MD recorder, then you can! I would go with battery, but that's just me.

Robert Knecht Schmidt · February 7th, 2003, 03:09 AM

I've never understood why the phantom + battery unit is cheaper!

Brian M. Dickman · February 7th, 2003, 09:27 AM

Yeah Scott, I didn't mean to imply that phantom power sounded better for the ME-66 specifically, but I've definitely seen it said that the AT performs better with phantom power instead of internal. This will not be the case on all shotguns, just some, and it's worth looking into for the ones you are interested in.

As far as the K6/K6P price difference goes, all I can think of is supply and demand. Nobody wants the phantom only unit, so they have less volume and the price goes up?

Jacques Mersereau · February 7th, 2003, 02:26 PM

If you want a nice step up in audio quality and a much longer
"reach out and pull it in" ability, the Sennheiser 416 flat out beats
the K6/ME67 combo imo and is shorter too. I power it with the
phantom produced by a beachtek DXA-6 and its 9v.

February 5th, 2003, 04:10 PM	#1
Esteban Sosa New Boot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 12	Phantom Powereding a mic (ME 66) This question is specific to the Sennheiser ME 66 Shotgun Mic or any mic that sells along with a battery powered adapter: I am trying to find out info on using a shotgun mic on the new DVX100 and have narrowed the choice down to the ME 66. I just have one question. Since the DVX100 has the ability to "Phantom Power" a microphone, can the ME 66 be used without having to buy the K6 Modular Condenser? I've been reading that powering a mic by battery results in a weaker signal than if you power it by the camera and only having to buy the ME 66 without the K6 Module would save a few bucks. Thank you for any responses~

February 5th, 2003, 05:31 PM	#2
Aric Spence New Boot Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ID Posts: 11	Sorry you must purchase the K6 or K6P The K6 or K6P must be used with the ME66. Keep in mind that after you purchase the module, you will have the ability to get other capsules for it. __________________ Very best regards, Aric Spence

February 6th, 2003, 07:51 AM	#3
Esteban Sosa New Boot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 12	Sorry you must purchase the K6 or K6P Thank you Aric. Just when your mind starts to think, you can save a few bucks here or there, there is always something else to buy.... :) I love this business~ Steve

February 7th, 2003, 02:50 AM	#6
Scott Silverman Major Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cupertino, California, USA Posts: 301	Someone on this forum once said that they thought the ME66 with battery K6 powered by phantom actually sounded equal to, if not better than, the K6 Phantom only. I don't remember who it was, but the battery K6 is cheaper and if you ever wanted to use it with a wireless transmitter or a MD recorder, then you can! I would go with battery, but that's just me. __________________ Scott Silverman Shining Star Digital Video Productions Bay Area, CA

February 7th, 2003, 03:09 AM	#7
Robert Knecht Schmidt Wrangler Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,933	I've never understood why the phantom + battery unit is cheaper! __________________ All the best, Robert K S Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| The best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 6th, 2003, 11:51 AM	#4
Jaime Valles Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: New York City, NY Posts: 316	So, which shotgun mics CAN the use phantom power from the DVX100? I am also doing research for shotgun mics for use in a boom, and the less equipment, the better...

February 6th, 2003, 01:25 PM	#5
Brian M. Dickman Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 148	Many shotguns are like the K6/ME66, and can operate either way. However, it's often better to run phantom powered externally because it provides more power than the internal supply gives, and the increased power provides better performance. A few reviews have pointed to this specifically on the AudioTechnica AT835b, for instance. In the case of the ME66, you have to realize that the capsule itself (the ME-66 proper) doesn't actually do anything unless it's attached to the power/connector module, either the K6 or K6P. Most of the prices you see will be for the complete kit though, capsule and module.

February 7th, 2003, 09:27 AM	#8
Brian M. Dickman Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 148	Yeah Scott, I didn't mean to imply that phantom power sounded better for the ME-66 specifically, but I've definitely seen it said that the AT performs better with phantom power instead of internal. This will not be the case on all shotguns, just some, and it's worth looking into for the ones you are interested in. As far as the K6/K6P price difference goes, all I can think of is supply and demand. Nobody wants the phantom only unit, so they have less volume and the price goes up?

February 7th, 2003, 02:26 PM	#9
Jacques Mersereau Trustee Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,334	If you want a nice step up in audio quality and a much longer "reach out and pull it in" ability, the Sennheiser 416 flat out beats the K6/ME67 combo imo and is shorter too. I power it with the phantom produced by a beachtek DXA-6 and its 9v. __________________ Jacques Mersereau University of Michigan-Video Studio Manager