How good is DVX100b at DVinfo.net

Michael Frye · May 22nd, 2007, 11:58 PM

Ok here's my delema, i have about a $8000 loan and im looking to get a camera and underwater setup including lights and housing. I found a DVX100B pakage that comes with a Equinox DVX100BPRO Underwater Video Housing and the camera for $4,650 on B&H. my question is would the DVX be a good choice or should I think about going High Def. I'm looking to find a camera that will be great quality for like 5 years, cause i am only starting my second year of a 3 year program at Brooks Institute Of Photography.

Glenn Gipson · May 23rd, 2007, 08:20 AM

I would really try to go with an HDV camera, of some sort. Even the $1000.00 Canon HV20 makes a better daylight image than the DVX100. But you may need to upgrade your NLE if you are going to go HDV.

Michael Frye · May 23rd, 2007, 01:56 PM

My only hesitation with going with the HV20 is the look. In my mind it does not look like a professional camera, I love the quality of it and know all the settings and small adjustments because i mess with it everyday at work(best buy) also they have not come out with a professional underwater housing for it. I heard Ilelite was in the process of designing one but have not heard too much more on that.

I've seriously been thinking of going with te HVX200 and found it for $2500 new my only hesition is the housing is going to be ridiculously expensive. I'm a film student so that camera will give me great quaity and be a good camera to have for years to come.
should i just bite the bullet and go for it?

Ian G. Thompson · May 23rd, 2007, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Frye

My only hesitation with going with the HV20 is the look. In my mind it does not look like a professional camera, I love the quality of it and know all the settings and small adjustments because i mess with it everyday at work(best buy) also they have not come out with a professional underwater housing for it. I heard Ilelite was in the process of designing one but have not heard too much more on that.

I've seriously been thinking of going with te HVX200 and found it for $2500 new my only hesition is the housing is going to be ridiculously expensive. I'm a film student so that camera will give me great quaity and be a good camera to have for years to come.
should i just bite the bullet and go for it?

Whoa...now it is very hard to believe you found a "legit" HVX for the amount you posted. I really chimed in to mention that I read in another post somewhere that the Sony underwater housing fits the HV20 and works like a charm. There is even video that you can sample with its use. I'm sorry I forgot where though...maybe someone else can tell you . But an HVX for under $4,000.00???? If it is a Web site you've seen this at then I would check at resellerratings.com about its legitimacy. Be careful.

Michael Frye · May 23rd, 2007, 05:39 PM

WOW I've never seen such bad reviews for a website before. thanks for that site.

I was looking at that other thread about the Sony sports pack working for the hv20 but you have to use the remote and u can only start/stop record and zoom in and out.

i need something that i will be fully able to control iris and focus and adjust the white balance. so the sport pack wont work.

one idea i had was to get two canon camers the HV20 for like $830 (employee price) and get the housing for that when they come out and then get a mid range high def prosumer canon.

so does any one know when that housing might possibly be coming out?
and would it be worth it.

Ash Greyson · May 24th, 2007, 07:39 AM

The 100b is a versatile and easy to use camera. The only real caveat is that is only shoots 4:3 natively and the faux 16:9 can get soft. I would not recommend HDV for water stuff. I would get an HVX, you can pick up a used package pretty cheap now with everything you need to get started.

ash =o)

Dante Waters · May 24th, 2007, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ash Greyson

The 100b is a versatile and easy to use camera. The only real caveat is that is only shoots 4:3 natively and the faux 16:9 can get soft. I would not recommend HDV for water stuff. I would get an HVX, you can pick up a used package pretty cheap now with everything you need to get started.

ash =o)

Ash used where? B&H
Also with your experience with canon would you compare the HVX too or which Canon would you go with if someone did a trade for a day with you?

Ash Greyson · May 26th, 2007, 11:26 AM

Check the forums here and DVXuser, there are often people liquidating well-cared for gear. I own an HVX as well and it does great progressive SD. There is a known bug with the HVX that will not allow you to shoot decent 480i so unless there is a reason that you might need 480i, you should consider the HVX. The ONLY negative on the HVX is that you lose a whole stop of light and like the DVX, it is naturally noisy so you have to learn to work around that.

The other good thing about HVX is the option to shoot HD which is going to be cheaper as we go forward.

ash =o)

Amy May · June 7th, 2007, 08:34 AM

Keep in mind that depending on your water depth, you will require additional lighting. IMO, the HDV camcorders currently on the market don't measure up to the DVX100B for light sensitivity. And I hope that in less than 5 years there will be some major improvements in this area.

Yow Siang · June 29th, 2007, 05:47 AM

Its very good!
This is subjective but i used a FX1, FX7 a canon xm2, a canon xl2 and finally this dvx100b. I just love it. i am not sure why but...
1. The colour tones naturally are nicely film-like. there is this nice warmish brown tinge tone that makes the footage stands out... anyway i cant explain.

2. Lowlight is great.

3. Its not too heavy

4. XLR and plenty of customisation possible.

Peter Lombar · August 4th, 2007, 01:37 AM

Hi Michael,

I have DVX100B in Equinox ProPak8 housing equiped with 2 x 50W HLC halogen (LiMn accu.) UW Video Light station. You can check short video from last Red Sea trip here http://www.lombar.net/video/safari-june07.asp.

/peter

May 22nd, 2007, 11:58 PM	#1
Michael Frye Tourist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ventura, CA Posts: 3	How good is DVX100b Ok here's my delema, i have about a $8000 loan and im looking to get a camera and underwater setup including lights and housing. I found a DVX100B pakage that comes with a Equinox DVX100BPRO Underwater Video Housing and the camera for $4,650 on B&H. my question is would the DVX be a good choice or should I think about going High Def. I'm looking to find a camera that will be great quality for like 5 years, cause i am only starting my second year of a 3 year program at Brooks Institute Of Photography.

May 23rd, 2007, 08:20 AM	#2
Glenn Gipson Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Plainfield, New Jersey Posts: 927	I would really try to go with an HDV camera, of some sort. Even the $1000.00 Canon HV20 makes a better daylight image than the DVX100. But you may need to upgrade your NLE if you are going to go HDV.

May 23rd, 2007, 01:56 PM	#3
Michael Frye Tourist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ventura, CA Posts: 3	My only hesitation with going with the HV20 is the look. In my mind it does not look like a professional camera, I love the quality of it and know all the settings and small adjustments because i mess with it everyday at work(best buy) also they have not come out with a professional underwater housing for it. I heard Ilelite was in the process of designing one but have not heard too much more on that. I've seriously been thinking of going with te HVX200 and found it for $2500 new my only hesition is the housing is going to be ridiculously expensive. I'm a film student so that camera will give me great quaity and be a good camera to have for years to come. should i just bite the bullet and go for it?

May 23rd, 2007, 05:39 PM	#5
Michael Frye Tourist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ventura, CA Posts: 3	WOW I've never seen such bad reviews for a website before. thanks for that site. I was looking at that other thread about the Sony sports pack working for the hv20 but you have to use the remote and u can only start/stop record and zoom in and out. i need something that i will be fully able to control iris and focus and adjust the white balance. so the sport pack wont work. one idea i had was to get two canon camers the HV20 for like $830 (employee price) and get the housing for that when they come out and then get a mid range high def prosumer canon. so does any one know when that housing might possibly be coming out? and would it be worth it.

May 24th, 2007, 07:39 AM	#6
Ash Greyson Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,689	The 100b is a versatile and easy to use camera. The only real caveat is that is only shoots 4:3 natively and the faux 16:9 can get soft. I would not recommend HDV for water stuff. I would get an HVX, you can pick up a used package pretty cheap now with everything you need to get started. ash =o)

May 26th, 2007, 11:26 AM	#8
Ash Greyson Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,689	Check the forums here and DVXuser, there are often people liquidating well-cared for gear. I own an HVX as well and it does great progressive SD. There is a known bug with the HVX that will not allow you to shoot decent 480i so unless there is a reason that you might need 480i, you should consider the HVX. The ONLY negative on the HVX is that you lose a whole stop of light and like the DVX, it is naturally noisy so you have to learn to work around that. The other good thing about HVX is the option to shoot HD which is going to be cheaper as we go forward. ash =o)

June 7th, 2007, 08:34 AM	#9
Amy May Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 32	Keep in mind that depending on your water depth, you will require additional lighting. IMO, the HDV camcorders currently on the market don't measure up to the DVX100B for light sensitivity. And I hope that in less than 5 years there will be some major improvements in this area.

June 29th, 2007, 05:47 AM	#10
Yow Siang Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 153	Its very good! This is subjective but i used a FX1, FX7 a canon xm2, a canon xl2 and finally this dvx100b. I just love it. i am not sure why but... 1. The colour tones naturally are nicely film-like. there is this nice warmish brown tinge tone that makes the footage stands out... anyway i cant explain. 2. Lowlight is great. 3. Its not too heavy 4. XLR and plenty of customisation possible.

August 4th, 2007, 01:37 AM	#11
Peter Lombar New Boot Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 9	Hi Michael, I have DVX100B in Equinox ProPak8 housing equiped with 2 x 50W HLC halogen (LiMn accu.) UW Video Light station. You can check short video from last Red Sea trip here http://www.lombar.net/video/safari-june07.asp. /peter