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December 10th, 2007, 03:51 AM | #16 | |
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December 11th, 2007, 10:12 PM | #17 |
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Believe me, I hear you Sergio. I own the same camera and the LCD is gorgeous.
You'd think, that since these high-res LCD's have been out for years now and *none* of the video camera manufacturers use them for their video cameras (why doesn't Canon use that same LCD technology for their own H1, for example?) I can only surmise that there must be a technological reason rather than monetary that keeps them from using these LCD's. There may also be a human psychological factor involved here too; since these high-res LCD's would make imagery appear unusually sharp the actual output would never live up to what people see in those high-res LCD's. Off topic: That G9 is an amazing camera; I shot this macro with it - the original camera raw is huge and gorgeous! |
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Back to the LCD's... You know, i actually followed that line of tought for a while. But I just look at my Iphone and PSP (specially the PSP), and I just can't find a reason for these screens to not be implemented on thse cameras. Again, these are 299 to 399 gadgets that display excelent video. The only possible reason that comes up to mind is battery life. But with lithium batteries more and more powerful nowadays- a Sony 970 battery lasts about 5 to 6 hours- I wouldn't mind compromising this to 3 hours if it would solve my much more critical focusing issue. Owning 3 or four camera batteries is a much more affordable and acceptable proposition than an investment in a 2000 or 1000 dollar external LCD that is heavy and takes out the mobility of the camera! I did invest in the 2000 dollar monitor, though. I went for the panny. Since i was buying an external, i figured i might as well buy one that would work for the future. And the waveform feature is excelent, as well as the essential focus in red. If it was just a bit less heavy, tough...
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The other thing you could look at is refresh rate. It's one thing to show a still image on a screen, but when you're pushing 30fps is there going to be motion blur added by a low pixel refresh on the lcd. It might be that high resolution, high refresh is highly difficult and expensive.
If you look at Panasonic Consumer, and their comparison of plasma technology to LCD technology, they point out how effective resolution on LCD's drops in high action due to motion blurring. Now that would be nasty trying to find focus on that high res screen. Just guessing, but that might be a reason. |
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Offload the battery's weight from the Panny's monitor
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EDIT- Tingsern Wong, I'm planning on going the belt way. However, for handhelld, I think i should invest on something on the lines of a shoulder support, or I feel it will just be too heavy. Actually, can you post a picture of how you mount the monitor for Handheld? I'm trying to configure my handheld setup and really would like suggestions for this. The Panasonic HK guys suggested me a SLIK 32 to support itself on the top handle. any better suggestion?
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PSP is something like 480-272? Pretty low res, especially for trying to monitor HD.
I don't know at all. I just know it is a big problem for many LCD computer monitors and LCD televisions. To get a high response rate LCD HDTV it is a significant premium. In a critical application like a camera LCD I would think monitor induced blur would be a nightmare. |
December 13th, 2007, 03:50 AM | #23 |
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What the heck are you lot talking about?
A decent movie (ARRI etc) camera with optical viewfinder blows any LCD clean off the planet. Guess what they use for focus? Viewfinder - nope. Screen - nope. Dope with a rope - nope. Wanna know? A LRF. Works for them, works for me. Could work for you too. Guess I'm just lucky. I don't have to spend squillions of bucks and have a crew of 5 to make sure I do, actually, have everything in focus. Guess it's horses for course. Anyone can make it as hard as they like for themselves, if they really want. Worth a thought. CS |
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Chris,
Unfortunately, digital movie cameras don't have optical rangefinder. We use an prehistoric creature called LCD. |
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Jeff, 480x272 is already better rez than the HVX LCD... EDIT- Heard the SOny EX has an excelent LCD. So it must be possible. which means there's no excuse for a low quality screen on the next HVX.
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If I were to use it "handheld", I use the BTLH80 inside a Petrol monitor bag - it comes with its own builtin hood as well. I sling the Petrol bag and walk along with it.
Picture 1 - LH80 inside Petrol bag (rear view) Picture 2 - LH80 inside Petrol bag (front view), with hood + plastic protector Picture 3 - LH80 inside Petrol bag (with hood up - front view) |
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If I have to handhold the camera and walk at the same time, somebody else will hold the LH80 for me. That's rarely done for my videos. Most of the time, I am stationary or move to a location, film, then move to another location, film. So, for my purpose, the LH80 can also be mounted on a separate tripod from the camera. My camera is mostly on a video tripod 99% of the time.
I adjust the zoom, focus, and aperature by using the Varizoom Sleath controller. Unless I have to shift the camera, I can just look at the LH80 most of the time, while I control the 3 functions of the camera. In particular, the zoom and focus settings. Aperature settings not so much, unless the light changes. |
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Hmm... maybe a dvrigpro+ a normal shoe mount for the monitor will work?
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