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Parth Savalia · May 24th, 2014, 12:50 PM

Hey Guys, we are a hindu temple located in India and we recently bought a few of the Panasonic AJ-PX270 P2 cameras and we are having some difficulty optimizing the settings. We do a daily broadcast every morning, and have been seeing some problems with the quality of the video. Attached below is a sample of the type of shooting done with the camera. Please note the lighting, the background and clothing of the personnel in the frame, as they are the same more or less everyday. Most of the lighting is composed of halogen lights and or tube lighting with occasional sunlight peaking through. We have been previously using the Panasonic AC 160 and loved those results. When we compare it to the new PX-270 we've found that the quality and sharpness on the PX-270 is a bit lower than the AC 160. Is this something that is done post production? or is there a setting for that?. Any idea as to what could be causing this? Any and all help is appreciated here. Thanks again! The video in the link is has 3 cameras The side cameras are the PX270's and the center camera is AC160. The video is a reference for the type of shooting we do. On the PX270 our resolution is 1920 X 1080 at 50p, the codec is AVC-LongG 25. We can't get the PX270 to look as sharp and detailed as the AC160.

Sam Lee · June 17th, 2014, 02:45 PM

You will need to spend several days connecting the PX270 to a very high quality monitor and tweak the settings to closely get the look to the other cam. Perhaps some white shadings and other advanced adjustments. It will and can never be 100% exact, but close and similar enough so the multicam switching wouldn't be distracting. Just like the 2011 HPX-250, the PX270 has the basic plus extensive color matrix (1st time found on prosumer priced cam for Panasonic) and other image settings. It will never look good out of factory default settings. I had to tweak my HPX-250 and spent weeks to months to get it looking close to the HPX-3000 series. It's close in overall color but can never replace it due to chip size and far superior optics found on 2/3" cam. It's hard to accept that the PX270 is inferior to the AC160.

Parth Savalia · June 22nd, 2014, 12:16 PM

Thanks Sam for your input , we will try to tweak the settings and try to get it as close as possible.

Matthew C. Abourezk · October 13th, 2014, 11:02 AM

Parth, oh my. The quality of that footage looks terrible.

Can you tell me what codec you are using?

I recently bought the 270 and have been playing with it. The quality is incredible, even in fairly low light.

I am shooting with the scene file Cine D, which makes the image very flat in color and contrast, but then I apply a quick saturation and contrast adjustment in post and it looks incredible.

I started by shooting in AVCi 100, but for much of my long-form corporate work I shoot in LongG 25 at 60P. Even the LongG looks far better than what I am seeing in your clip.

Hopefully you have been able to figure out what the issue is.
Matt

May 24th, 2014, 12:50 PM	#1
Parth Savalia Tourist Join Date: May 2014 Location: Paramus, MA Posts: 3	Need Help with Camera Settings Hey Guys, we are a hindu temple located in India and we recently bought a few of the Panasonic AJ-PX270 P2 cameras and we are having some difficulty optimizing the settings. We do a daily broadcast every morning, and have been seeing some problems with the quality of the video. Attached below is a sample of the type of shooting done with the camera. Please note the lighting, the background and clothing of the personnel in the frame, as they are the same more or less everyday. Most of the lighting is composed of halogen lights and or tube lighting with occasional sunlight peaking through. We have been previously using the Panasonic AC 160 and loved those results. When we compare it to the new PX-270 we've found that the quality and sharpness on the PX-270 is a bit lower than the AC 160. Is this something that is done post production? or is there a setting for that?. Any idea as to what could be causing this? Any and all help is appreciated here. Thanks again! The video in the link is has 3 cameras The side cameras are the PX270's and the center camera is AC160. The video is a reference for the type of shooting we do. On the PX270 our resolution is 1920 X 1080 at 50p, the codec is AVC-LongG 25. We can't get the PX270 to look as sharp and detailed as the AC160. Swaminarayan, 24 05 14 AAJNA SADVICHAR by Pu Gyanjivandasjiswami, Kundaldham - YouTube

June 17th, 2014, 02:45 PM	#2
Sam Lee Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 49	Re: Need Help with Camera Settings You will need to spend several days connecting the PX270 to a very high quality monitor and tweak the settings to closely get the look to the other cam. Perhaps some white shadings and other advanced adjustments. It will and can never be 100% exact, but close and similar enough so the multicam switching wouldn't be distracting. Just like the 2011 HPX-250, the PX270 has the basic plus extensive color matrix (1st time found on prosumer priced cam for Panasonic) and other image settings. It will never look good out of factory default settings. I had to tweak my HPX-250 and spent weeks to months to get it looking close to the HPX-3000 series. It's close in overall color but can never replace it due to chip size and far superior optics found on 2/3" cam. It's hard to accept that the PX270 is inferior to the AC160.

June 22nd, 2014, 12:16 PM	#3
Parth Savalia Tourist Join Date: May 2014 Location: Paramus, MA Posts: 3	Re: Need Help with Camera Settings Thanks Sam for your input , we will try to tweak the settings and try to get it as close as possible.

October 13th, 2014, 11:02 AM	#4
Matthew C. Abourezk Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Easton, CT Posts: 28	Re: Need Help with Camera Settings Parth, oh my. The quality of that footage looks terrible. Can you tell me what codec you are using? I recently bought the 270 and have been playing with it. The quality is incredible, even in fairly low light. I am shooting with the scene file Cine D, which makes the image very flat in color and contrast, but then I apply a quick saturation and contrast adjustment in post and it looks incredible. I started by shooting in AVCi 100, but for much of my long-form corporate work I shoot in LongG 25 at 60P. Even the LongG looks far better than what I am seeing in your clip. Hopefully you have been able to figure out what the issue is. Matt

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