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Michael Pappas January 5th, 2006 04:54 PM

As you gain up, they can start to show up. Seen it man many times... In HD it is horrible. Friggin north star in every shot. You start looking for baby Jesus in every scene....

I have many readers and people who I am trusted by. I am just getting it straight. No big deal. Jan was good enough to respond and she will clarify my follow up when she see's it. Then I can update my web site with their response..... Then put it to rest..



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Quote:

Originally Posted by Petr Marusek
I think that Jan was very clear. Panasonic is extremely reputable pro video company. Plus I am not aware that dead pixel presence is gain related. You either have a dead pixel or you don't. The JVC pixel phenomena at gain up seems to be something unique to that camera and totally unrelated to Panasonic. If people start reporting similar phenomena with Panasonic, that would be the time to ask Jan.


Chosei Funahara January 5th, 2006 05:01 PM

18db gain
 
yep, I never use more than +6db on any camera anyway, but some people use for different effect? I guess.

Terry Nixon January 5th, 2006 05:10 PM

every camera is going to get a dead pixel at some point and i think JVC, Sony, and Panasonic all use pixel mapping to address the dead pixel issues.

allowing customers to open three boxes in search of one perfect camera isn't standard operating procedure at Sony JVC or Panasonic. your dealer may put up with it, but the manufacturers will not take these cameras back from the dealer as far as i've experienced.

you are not going to get Panasonic, JVC, or Sony to put something in print about pixel guarantees. The cost of this can of worms is greater than most camera purchasers would be willing to bear if this is the new standard.

A few are going to complain and get new cameras. The others either are not going to notice or will use the mapping systems built into the cameras to mask the issue.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Petr Marusek
I think that Jan was very clear. Panasonic is extremely reputable pro video company. Plus I am not aware that dead pixel presence is gain related. You either have a dead pixel or you don't. The JVC pixel phenomena at gain up seems to be something unique to that camera and totally unrelated to Panasonic. If people start reporting similar phenomena with Panasonic, that would be the time to ask Jan.


Michael Pappas January 5th, 2006 05:16 PM

Actually Terry,

Jan did make a comment on it. It was positive, I just need a
follow up question answered so I can update my News section on my site...


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Michael Pappas
Arrfilms@hotmail.com
PappasArts & Arrfilms Main site
http://www.pbase.com/Arrfilms
http://www.PappasArts.com
http://www.Myspace.com/


Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry Nixon
every camera is going to get a dead pixel at some point and i think JVC, Sony, and Panasonic all use pixel mapping to address the dead pixel issues.

allowing customers to open three boxes in search of one perfect camera isn't standard operating procedure at Sony JVC or Panasonic. your dealer may put up with it, but the manufacturers will not take these cameras back from the dealer as far as i've experienced.

you are not going to get Panasonic, JVC, or Sony to put something in print about pixel guarantees. The cost of this can of worms is greater than most camera purchasers would be willing to bear if this is the new standard.

A few are going to complain and get new cameras. The others either are not going to notice or will use the mapping systems built into the cameras to mask the issue.


Terry Nixon January 6th, 2006 11:39 AM

Jan might have said "we'll take care of you", but having gone through this in the past (not JVC or Panasonic) you will never see something stated IN PRINT on the warranty card or manual.

As the dealer, we were left holding the bag when objections from a discerning camera purchaser killed a deal due due to barely visibile pixels visible at 18db.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Pappas
Actually Terry,

Jan did make a comment on it. It was positive, I just need a
follow up question answered so I can update my News section on my site...


LINK TO XLH1 MATERIAL: http://www.pbase.com/Arrfilms

Michael Pappas
Arrfilms@hotmail.com
PappasArts & Arrfilms Main site
http://www.pbase.com/Arrfilms
http://www.PappasArts.com
http://www.Myspace.com/


Walter Graff January 6th, 2006 02:18 PM

"On any gain setting including 18db?"

Are you sure you are not confusing hot or stuck pixels with dead pixels? There probably ins;t a camera in existence, SD or HD that has a perfect CCD image. In fact in manufacturing there is actually a tolerable limit.


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