DV Info Net - The HVX200 is not a prosumer camera

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panasonic can call it whatever they want but ultimately the users will dub it whatever it is to them and most of them will call it a prosumer cam. it's not based on all the great features. prosumer relates directly to price and this camera fits neatly in between low end sony hd consumer cams and high end pro hd cams.

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Originally Posted by Walter Graff

Just to put this discussion to rest.

Panasonic Chief Technology Officer Paul Liao stated in TV technology this week while referring to the HVX200:

"When other camcorder makers proposed the HDV format for higher end CONSUMER PRODUCTS, Panasonic choose not to support it...our understanding of CONSUMERS and fundamentals of video imaging told us that the right answers for CONSUMERS was not HDV."

This does not mean TV stations, and major pros can't an will not use the HVX200 when it suits the need, but take away the marketing and these small form cameras are designed for consumer use.

A professional P2 camera would be something like the AJ-spx900.

Manufacturers don't determine the professional end use of their products, professionals do.

Both the H1 and HVX will be used for film making, commercial work and other paying (professional) work far more than graduation videos.

There's a market full of litle cameras that consumers want to put in their bags and take onvacation and to family events.

Trust me, the HVX and XL-H1 are not the ones their looking at in Best Buy.

"Manufacturers don't determine the professional end use of their products, professionals do."

You are correct but now there are so many wannabe filmmakers out there that marketing by association helps make consumer cameras appear to be pro cameras when they were not designed as such. Any camera with a Tv remote is not my first choice in the professional world. But a s a pro I can tell you It's me that determines what camera and format I use, not a manufacture. It's just sad to see all of the hype over a 1/3 inch camera. It's turning out just as I said, all of these 1/3 inch small form HD cameras are looking to be about equal in overall picture and results just as their Dv counterparts are. you can't squeeze blood from stone. Without a real lens, substantial electronics, and a decent CCD, these cameras are modified consumer cameras aka prosumer. In fact the HVX was on display at the Consumer Electronics Show. As I said it's not a pro camera but whatever Panasonic can do to sell it, consumer or pro they will do. Nothing wrong with that, just sad that folks who can't afford lights or knowledge would pluck down 10k for something that isn't going to do much more for them then the DVX they are selling to get it. See a camera does not make one a pro rather a pro makes a camera shoot well.

This thread, like several others recently, is beyond done. Time to discuss something else,