More Snow Footage!! 60p

Rogelio Salinas · March 17th, 2006, 10:57 AM

Quick Question. In post would you be able to speed up the shots recorded in 60fps shots to 24fps to get back to regular speed shots? Just in case you shoot in slo-mo and you decide that you would rather that shot be shown in 24fps.

Cassidy Bisher · March 17th, 2006, 02:55 PM

Yes, I think it would be a matter of adjusting the clips speed change percentage to the exact amount, I don't know what that is but you could figure it out...

60 / 2.5 = 24 (I suck in math) what would be the percentage?

James Llewellyn · March 17th, 2006, 04:03 PM

Quick math on the calc. 40%

60 / 100 = .6 x 40 = 24

Also a quick example would be 60 is divisable by 6 as 10, and treat 10 as if it's 100. So just work off multiples of 6.

24 / 6 = 4 and just add a 0 = 40 alas 40%

...but then again I stopped being good in math since the 8th grade so all this could be wrong...

Justyn Rowe · March 18th, 2006, 12:37 PM

what kind of bad press is everyone refering to? Simply hasn't been hurting the sales and I think people are inclined to throw crap at anything that is new/ out of the box/ or revolutionary! I couldn't be happier with this cam.. especially when seeing the nightmare my friends are having editing HDV.. and what crappy poo poos those cams do with action footage. Simply looks like crap! I saw what was coming out of the camera at the race I was at and the HDV just can't handle anything moving at a high rate of speed. Either the subject or the camera!

Dylan Couper · March 18th, 2006, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Justyn Rowe

what kind of bad press is everyone refering to? and what crappy poo poos those cams do with action footage. Simply looks like crap!

Could you be a little more technical?

Glenn Davidson · March 18th, 2006, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylan Couper

Could you be a little more technical?

I agree, he sounds like a toddler throwing a tantrum!

James Llewellyn · March 18th, 2006, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn Davidson

I agree, he sounds like a toddler throwing a tantrum!

Was it with all that talk about poo poo?

Jaser Stockert · March 19th, 2006, 12:03 AM

cassidy,

what shutter speed were you set at for the slowmo?

Cassidy Bisher · March 19th, 2006, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaser Stockert

cassidy,

what shutter speed were you set at for the slowmo?

1/250 or higher... I can't remember.

Cassidy Bisher · March 20th, 2006, 12:02 PM

Someone asked if they could have a raw untouched file of this footage a while back... here it is. Right click and save as...

http://www.motivitypictures.com/hvx2...wing_on_me.mov

It's just one clip, it's around 130 MB, but you can bring it in to FCP and do what you like with it...

Cassidy Bisher · March 30th, 2006, 09:27 AM

Here is another raw file, PC users should be able to see this one... let me know if you can't..

http://www.motivitypictures.com/hvx200/streetlight.mov

right click save as.

Harikrishnan Ponnurangam · March 30th, 2006, 04:10 PM

When you compress the file did you use Quicktime conversion or Quicktime movie after editing. Especially the files are huge to put it on web. I did use the compressor but the quality is not great if i use high band width streaming.

What kind of method you use when posting it on web? Any idea??

Cassidy Bisher · March 31st, 2006, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Harikrishnan Ponnurangam

When you compress the file did you use Quicktime conversion or Quicktime movie after editing. Especially the files are huge to put it on web. I did use the compressor but the quality is not great if i use high band width streaming.

What kind of method you use when posting it on web? Any idea??

I used quicktime conversion, i also changed it using the square pixel aspect ratio so you could open it up in quicktime and the aspect ratio wouldn't be squished (960 * 720).

The compressor I used was just dvcproHD, so there wouldn't be a loss of qualtiy. I know it's huge but people want to see it untouched.

Alan Galbraith · March 31st, 2006, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassidy Bisher

We shot this February 23rd, it was snowing. The snow flakes were monstrosic, so we had to get the camera out.. just a few clips of Downtown Grand Rapids...

http://motivitypictures.com/hvx200/m..._snow_day.html

I've got a dumb question.... how does one do the slowmo-fastmo-slowmo bit?

I get the idea of over-cranking and dropping the footage into a different frame rate timeline for slowmo... are ya just using FCP's "speed" percentage control to speed up the clips?

Sorry if its a real basic question... but I do mostly educaitonal/documentary footage (deadly boring) and dont get to play around with these sort of things too often.

help a creatively trapped soul out :D

I'm downloading the raw clips ya posted to try it all out for myself once i learn how.

what frame rates are the raw clips?

Cassidy Bisher · March 31st, 2006, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Galbraith

are ya just using FCP's "speed" percentage control to speed up the clips?

Yes, there's just a speed change done in FCP, and there is no such thing as a dumb question. If that were true I would be an idiot by now.

Those raw clips are 23.98, originally 60p...

March 30th, 2006, 09:27 AM	#26
Cassidy Bisher Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Grand Rapids MI Posts: 198	STREET LIGHT SHOT 720p60 Here is another raw file, PC users should be able to see this one... let me know if you can't.. http://www.motivitypictures.com/hvx200/streetlight.mov right click save as. __________________ Cassidy Bisher http://dropdropstudios.com

March 30th, 2006, 04:10 PM	#27
Harikrishnan Ponnurangam Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: St.Louis, USA Posts: 145	What compression When you compress the file did you use Quicktime conversion or Quicktime movie after editing. Especially the files are huge to put it on web. I did use the compressor but the quality is not great if i use high band width streaming. What kind of method you use when posting it on web? Any idea??

March 17th, 2006, 10:57 AM	#16
Rogelio Salinas Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 75	Quick Question. In post would you be able to speed up the shots recorded in 60fps shots to 24fps to get back to regular speed shots? Just in case you shoot in slo-mo and you decide that you would rather that shot be shown in 24fps.

March 17th, 2006, 02:55 PM	#17
Cassidy Bisher Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Grand Rapids MI Posts: 198	Yes, I think it would be a matter of adjusting the clips speed change percentage to the exact amount, I don't know what that is but you could figure it out... 60 / 2.5 = 24 (I suck in math) what would be the percentage?

March 17th, 2006, 04:03 PM	#18
James Llewellyn Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 80	Quick math on the calc. 40% 60 / 100 = .6 x 40 = 24 Also a quick example would be 60 is divisable by 6 as 10, and treat 10 as if it's 100. So just work off multiples of 6. 24 / 6 = 4 and just add a 0 = 40 alas 40% ...but then again I stopped being good in math since the 8th grade so all this could be wrong...

March 18th, 2006, 12:37 PM	#19
Justyn Rowe Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 54	what kind of bad press is everyone refering to? Simply hasn't been hurting the sales and I think people are inclined to throw crap at anything that is new/ out of the box/ or revolutionary! I couldn't be happier with this cam.. especially when seeing the nightmare my friends are having editing HDV.. and what crappy poo poos those cams do with action footage. Simply looks like crap! I saw what was coming out of the camera at the race I was at and the HDV just can't handle anything moving at a high rate of speed. Either the subject or the camera!

March 19th, 2006, 12:03 AM	#23
Jaser Stockert Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: California Posts: 147	cassidy, what shutter speed were you set at for the slowmo?

March 20th, 2006, 12:02 PM	#25
Cassidy Bisher Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Grand Rapids MI Posts: 198	Someone asked if they could have a raw untouched file of this footage a while back... here it is. Right click and save as... http://www.motivitypictures.com/hvx2...wing_on_me.mov It's just one clip, it's around 130 MB, but you can bring it in to FCP and do what you like with it...