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March 14th, 2007, 11:00 PM | #31 | |
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read the thread properly.. its not about money.. its about P2 usability TODAY as for being "early adopters" this is an entirely different argument.. the fact is that P2 has been around now for what.. 3 years almost...a litle more? I was runnign the shop to the public back then so it would have been... about 3-4 yrs ago... Dont forget P2 was available for quite a while before DVCPRoHD was available.. Is 3 years considered early? Condsidering most camcorders dont have a lifespan for that long? in regard to "panasonics job" comment.. youre going completely off track.. however in response i will say that it IS up to Panasonic if they want to keep this form factor a viable option.. Like i said, its a bread and butter camera.. and it keeps them in the loop with HDV offerings.. BUT it wont be there for long if something isnt done about P2 And like i said, read the thread properly because its not purely about cost.. |
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March 14th, 2007, 11:00 PM | #32 | |
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Sorry, just trying to keep the facts straight. -gb- |
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March 14th, 2007, 11:11 PM | #33 |
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valid responses here IMO here.. but one other thing i should note, is that the camera has now been around for over a year..
Pana are making strides with AVCHD camcorders as we have already seen, theyve also made strides with the new HPX.. however the camera itself is a totally different animal to the HVX and cannot be compared.. IF... and this may well be Panas saving grace.. IF they offered to sell EMPTY P2 card shells.. with no SD cards.... the life of P2 WOULD be sustained as users can upgrade their SD's as they see fit. You need 8gb? go for it... need to break down one P2 card to create 2 4gb cards for this particualr project? Go for it... There are MANY SD card manufacturers out there, and speed tests have shown that theyre as fast, if not faster than Panas offerings... ive seen SD cards at 166x some faster than this. And yes, ive fed 35mbps XDCamHD footage through a 2g SD card and it didnt skip a beat... May only be 35mbps, but it works.,, and with the P2 raid0 setup, it will be even faster than that.. Give us empty P2 shells... let us worry about the SD card prices |
March 14th, 2007, 11:18 PM | #34 | |
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March 14th, 2007, 11:22 PM | #35 |
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Sorry but there are two misconceptions here that really need to be rectified:
Wrong. P2 has been around for three years. It was introduced way back in 2004. Incorrect -- XDCAM most certainly does *not* shoot an HDV format! Folks, let's please get back to productive discussions that actually accomplish something, such as topics about *how* to use this gear and *what* are we creating with these tools. This thread has been pretty much a borderline platform war from the get-go, and we don't do platform wars here. It's time to bring this utterly pointless debate to a screeching halt. Let's focus instead on sharing *useful* information that you can carry into your day. Thanks in advance, |
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