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Old September 16th, 2008, 02:43 PM   #1
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Old September 16th, 2008, 03:44 PM   #2
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At 224 x 56 pixels (1000fps), it's not going to be very useful for most of us.
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Old September 16th, 2008, 04:42 PM   #3
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480 x 360 at 210fps for under $1000 might come in handy for demonstrations though...
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Old September 16th, 2008, 04:50 PM   #4
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Shoot (nopunintended) I could use 480x360 alot . I do some pieces for lcd display in galleries .I've been using less even. And at 210fps . It' pretty cool. Kinda of a cheap scarlet.k
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Old September 17th, 2008, 07:26 AM   #5
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Of more interest would be the 720 HD mode although it appears only 30fps, no 24p option.
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Old September 20th, 2008, 07:22 PM   #6
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man , i can't believe more people aren't interested in this camera - 210fps at 360 lines of resolution - i'm thinking this is the princess that stole the show. maybe this will interest -

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Old September 20th, 2008, 07:29 PM   #7
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man , i can't believe more people aren't interested in this camera - 210fps at 360 lines of resolution - i'm thinking this is the princess that stole the show.
The duration and resolution issues are the reason it's not the revolutionary. It can basically only capture this rates to memory, no way to write these bursts to disk without stopping capture completely, thus the short (too short in my book) durations to be useful in except in narrow applications.

There are DSLR that can sustain 5fps at full JPG resolution for the capacity of the card. That's actually much harder to achieve.
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Old September 20th, 2008, 07:32 PM   #8
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excuse me but did you look at the dog clip ?
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Old September 20th, 2008, 07:41 PM   #9
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excuse me but did you look at the dog clip ?
It's half SD rez - basically VHS territory. Other than "isn't this cool", there's not a whole lot you can do with this stuff in a SD much less an HD production.

To me, it's a gimmick cam until they can either do super slo-mo at 720p, otherwise, what exactly would you use this footage for?
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Old September 21st, 2008, 04:08 AM   #10
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i would be happy with 100fps @ 720p is that day near?
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Old September 21st, 2008, 09:15 AM   #11
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resolution is an over-rated image tool - yea - I'd love 210fps at 720p because it's alot easier to downrez than uprez , but as I said for some of my applications with small (15") lcds , 360 is good enough. And actually most dv cameras never had 480 lines of real res anyway . This looks alot better than 60i slowed with fcs to my eyes . I hate the studder . This is smooth motion . Not everyone is dreaming of a theater release .
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resolution is an over-rated image tool - yea - I'd love 210fps at 720p because it's alot easier to downrez than uprez , but as I said for some of my applications with small (15") lcds , 360 is good enough. And actually most dv cameras never had 480 lines of real res anyway . This looks alot better than 60i slowed with fcs to my eyes . I hate the studder . This is smooth motion . Not everyone is dreaming of a theater release .
Maybe not, but when I need slo-mo, I use Twixtor. Not a perfect solution for every shot but it does silky smooth slow-mo.
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Maybe not, but when I need slo-mo, I use Twixtor. Not a perfect solution for every shot but it does silky smooth slow-mo.
I love Twixtor as well, but it won't create what was never there in the first place. I would be interested in the higher rate of motion sampling to capture things that happen too fast for normal frame rates.

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I love Twixtor as well, but it won't create what was never there in the first place. I would be interested in the higher rate of motion sampling to capture things that happen too fast for normal frame rates.

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But that is exactly what Twixtor does - interpolates frames that were not there to begin with. Of course, it's not the same, but I've used it on HD broadcast ads to get 100fps off 24fps footage and as long as you shoot with it in mind, results work well.

If this camera did either very sharp 480p (and the JPEGs look very soft at 100%) or nice 720p even at 100fps, it could be a very useful tool. Hopefully, they will keep pushing the tech.
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>>Hopefully, they will keep pushing the tech.<<

Well that's something we can all agree on . I was surprised that canon didn't give more frame rates with the 5dmkll . Maybe d90mkll might be a more obvious source since nikon doesn't have a market to protect .
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